Loujon Press publications

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  1. PBBUK

    PBBUK Prospect Unholy Ones

    Does anyone know of a good website detailing Loujon Press publications?

    Of course, I know of Buk's 2 books. But I am interested in learning more of the other books produced.

    Not expecting a collectingbukowski.com description but something similar would be nice.

    I picked up the DVD recently but wanted a bit more. Also picked up a Henry Miller Loujon Press book (cork cover like It Catches) so want to see what else is out there.

  2. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    There is no website that I know of.

    LouJon published

    1961 Outsider 1
    1962 Outsider 2
    1963 Outsider 3
    1963 Charles Bukowski - It Catches My Heart In Its Hands
    1965 Charles Bukowski - Crucifix In A Deathhand
    1966 Henry Miller - Order & Chaos
    1969 Outsider 4/5
    1970 Henry Miller - Insomnia or the Devil At Large

    Add to that the occasional broadside announcement and you have it.... I know that they did a poster of Henry Miller riding a bicycle and they did a poster for a Bukowski poetry reading on NOLA. they also tended to letterpress announcements for books, so there are some collectible ephemeral things out there.

    To add to that, Lou Webb worked with Ed Blair on Perdido Press occasionally, including the "Two for Jon" project and the Bukowski broadside that came out in 1994.

  3. hoochmonkey9

    hoochmonkey9 Art should be its own hammer. Vice President First 9 Reaper Crew Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

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  4. PBBUK

    PBBUK Prospect Unholy Ones

    Thanks for the quick replies and information.

    What a shame more books were not produced - so beautifully made.

    But at least it will save me money so I will not have to catch a BSP disease and try and have all the cool looking spines!!
  5. mjp

    mjp President First 9 Reaper Crew Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

  6. HarryC13

    HarryC13 Prospect

    Yes, that's right. I reviewed both the book and DVD for Chiron Review, and they are excellent. MJP, I know that author Jeff Weddle is a member here, but I can't remember his handle. Can you help with that?


  7. Gerard K H Love

    Gerard K H Love Appreciate your friends Men of Mayhem

    I think he might be Weddle.
  8. Rekrab

    Rekrab Half right most the time, except when I'm wrong. ROAD CAPTAIN Unholy Ones

    The DVD is great.

    I always assumed they did more books than that, Bill. Of course, those books are monumental works of art and labors of love, so it's not like Jon & Gypsy Lou were dogging it.
  9. HarryC13

    HarryC13 Prospect

    Now Gerard, how ridiculous is that? A guy named Weddle has the buk.net name of Weddle? Stop sniffing that model glue, pal.

    Uh, seriously, yeah, I'll bet that's him, all right. :)
  10. james

    james Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    here's one of the announcements...


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  11. hoochmonkey9

    hoochmonkey9 Art should be its own hammer. Vice President First 9 Reaper Crew Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

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    homeless mind SAMCRO

  13. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    Post #10 mentions that JOHNSON REPRINT CORPORATION was going to reprint 1-3 of outsider as a book for $27.50.

    I guess that is as far as it got...

  14. roni

    roni Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    too bad.
  15. james

    james Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    also, the post 10 announcement says, "sorry, no stiffcover copies left...so only the hardcovers are available."
    what does this mean? first of all, stiffcover and hardcover seem like the same thing to me. second, i've only seen one format of #4/5, and that is the hardcover book.
    any thoughts or ideas on this?
  16. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    There was a hardcover and a paperback version. I have seen and held both. The "Stiffcover" was really a fancy way of saying Paperback...

  17. mjp

    mjp President First 9 Reaper Crew Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    The paperback must be uncommon. Every time you see someone selling that issue it's the hardcover.
  18. jordan

    jordan lothario speedwagon Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    i wouldn't be surprised if all the pb copies fell apart... knowing the fragility of those books, and considering how the outsider probably wasn't cherished like the award books.
  19. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    The paperback was surprisingly sturdy. The copy that I had was tight and well bound.

  20. james

    james Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    i've never heard of this "paperback" edition of the outsider 4/5. never seen one on ebay or abe for the last 9 years or so. anyone own one or have an image?

    though i do believe you bill!
  21. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    There are several paperback copies on abe...


    The Outsider, Vol. 2, Nos. 4 and 5
    Bookseller: Pleasant Street Books
    Price: US$ 125.00

    Book Description: Loujon Press, Arizona, 1969. Soft Cover. Book Condition: Fine. No Jacket. Handsomely presented journal of poetry, essays and cartoons. Endpages are thick paper of different colors and length. Great copy. Bookseller Inventory # 017232

    The Outsider 4 and 5 (Embracing a 46-page homage to Patchen)
    Bookseller: Vagabond Books, A.B.A.A.
    Price: US$ 262.50
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    Book Description: LoUJON, 1969. Soft Cover. Dust Jacket Included. FiRST. One of a limited edition of 500 copies; THIS IS ALLEN GINGSBERG COPY WITH A LETTER FROM THE PUBLISHERS TO HIM. beautiful copy with half of the scarce dj. along with a a newsclipping about the floor at the printers, an order form for CRUCIFIX IN A DEATHHAND, PLUS A FLYER FROM THE PRESS.; "Embracing a 46-page homage to Patchen"; an extremely attractive and scarce production including works by Charles Bukowski, Larry Eigner, Denise Levertov, Thomas Merton and Jean Cocteau among many others; includes a lengthy tribute to Kenneth Patchen; Signed. Bookseller Inventory # FIR 11/26-2


    Bookseller: THE BOOK BIN -- ATTN: Carl
    Price: US$ 105.00

    Book Description: Tucson: Loujon Press, 1969, 1969. 25.2 cm, 196 pp. Bound in self-dustjackets stiff wraps. With contributions by Charles Bukowski, Diane Di Prima, Denise Levertov, Lawrence Durrell, Michael Hamburger, Miriam Patchen, Allen Ginsberg, Hugh MacDiarmid, Kenneth Rexroth, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Henry Miller, Thomas Merton, Robert Bly, David Antin, Anselm Hollo, and others. A very good copy, with subscription card, ALS from the publisher, offprint (The Editor's Bit, & Obit.) from this issue, and copy of an article about the flood at the home of the Loujon Press laid in. 191 pp. Bookseller Inventory # BBC-0K6598y


    The Outsider Volume 4/5
    Bookseller: The Brother in Elysium (c/o Hermitage)
    Price: US$ 100.00

    Book Description: Loujon Press, Tucson, Arizona, 1969. Original Wrappers. Book Condition: Very Good +. First Edition. Issue dedicated largely to Kenneth Patchen featuring an excellent 46 page spread filled with photographs and words of affection by other writers such as Bern Porter, Kenneth Rexroth, Harold Norse, Allen Gisberg, Brother Antonius, among others. The rest of the issue is filled with writing by Charles Plymell, Larry Eigner, Bukowski, Denise Levertov, David Meltzer, d.a. levy, Douglas Blazek, Dick Higgins, David Antin, Emmett Williams, Jackson Mac Low, among a whole long list of others. A visual piece each by Ray Johnson and Al Hansen. Only The Outsider could be this inclusive and still be so strong. One of the best small (yet physically impressive) journals ever done in America. This is a very nice copy with a strong binding. Wrappers show very light rubbing. Protected in mylar. A very nice copy of the best issue of The Outsider. Bookseller Inventory # 001232

    Just in case anyone wants to question me in the future :)

  22. james

    james Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    of course i wasn't doubting you bill. :)

    but, with some of those i would just assume they were talking about the hc, as in the ones offered by the book bin and the brother in elysium. maybe i just never paid close enough attention to the description. when i see "stiff wraps" i think hardcover. stiff isn't soft to me! (that's what she said???)
  23. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    They could be wrong, but I have held and owned a paperback copy before the finances got the worst of me a few years ago.

    I would bet that at least half of those 4 on abe are actually the paperback version. The cover is really heavy cardstock, but it is not a hardback.

  24. mjp

    mjp President First 9 Reaper Crew Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    The bigger question may be, "why the hell would anyone produce a hardcover version of a magazine/periodical?" I asked Jon Webb and he didn't answer.

    Which isn't surprising, considering his current condition.
  25. jordan

    jordan lothario speedwagon Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    well, i like that they produced a hardcover, since it's a nice book to own, even considering the fact that it is a periodical. matrix journal does the same thing- a limited edition hardcover release for each issue- and they get away with it because each issue of matrix is so much more than just a periodical. i think loujon was going for the high-end private press thing with this book, and luckily they achieved it, if only for "beef tongue."
  26. nymark

    nymark SAMCRO Unholy Ones

    Here's a pic of the paperback version. Bill is correct. It's a pretty tough book. To call it a "paperback" doesn't do it justice, which is probably why Webb didn't use that term. And I agree with mjp. I've seen MANY more hardback versions for sale than paperback.

    My copy belonged to contributor David Meltzer. It has the proof page of his contribution laid in along with a few pieces of correspondence. I've included a pic of a hand written letter from Jon Webb that gives a pretty fascinating snapshot of how the Loujon press toiled over this book.

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  27. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 ROAD CAPTAIN

    Webb considered "The Outsider" a "book periodical," not strictly a magazine. I guess you can produce HC versions of a "book periodical."

    In the TOC to issue 4/5, he even says it's a "book issue."

  28. Ponder

    Ponder "So fuck Doubleday Doran" Live to Ride ROAD CAPTAIN

    Why not? As long as you also produce a paperback edition for us poor people.
  29. roni

    roni Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    it seems, the REAL collectible nowadays would be the paperback ed.
  30. Ponder

    Ponder "So fuck Doubleday Doran" Live to Ride ROAD CAPTAIN

    I know...but that is not the point of mjp and me.

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