Poem for My Daughter - Showcase, 1966

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  1. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 Redwood Original

    "Poem For My Daughter," in SHOWCASE no. 3 (July 1966).

    Unpublished as of 2006.
     

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  2. Olaf

    Olaf Prospect

    'now she sleeps beautifully like
    boats on the Nile'

    A simple and effective image!
    Bukowski knew the power of the simple...gotta love it!!
     
  3. reasonknot

    reasonknot First 9 Prospect

    yes
    'like electocuted wax'
    you gotta love it
    fer show
     
  4. "If it weren't a responsibiity" is a very interesting line considering the poem about his father ( I don't know if he wrote on when his mother died) and the image about BUK and Jane's son at Janes funeral.
     
  5. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    Will be published in 2007! it is included in the new book of poems, "The People Look Like Flowers At Last".

    BIll
     
  6. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 Redwood Original

    great! the good thing about uploading poems here and then seeing them published by Ecco is that we can appreciate the editing, if any...
     
  7. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    Hi,
    I just compared them and there are many, many changes.....

    Of course, given the time since it would have been written, it is entirely possible that Buk edited the poem.

    Best,
    Bill
     
  8. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 Redwood Original

    remember B used to send the poems and then he would forget them. I'm almost sure B did little or no editing at all once he sent the poems to the mags or Martin...
     
  9. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 Redwood Original

    Bill,
    maybe you'd like to compare "Rimbaud Be Damned" -the version I sent you over- and the one which appears on The People Look Like...
     
  10. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    Hi Abel,
    Please send me the ms and I'll check it. I cannot find the post in the forum...

    Bill
     
  11. mjp

    mjp President First 9 Reaper Crew Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    I think he's referring to the one he sent on paper with the DVD...
     
  12. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 Redwood Original

    Bill,
    mjp is dead right...
     
  13. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    Ok. Let me find it....

    Bill
     
  14. bospress.net

    bospress.net www.bospress.net Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    Hi Abel and others,
    The poem starts off:

    it was in Sante Fe.
    we sat up waiting for her.

    I see that the first line was not on the ms. Also some other changes. The same feel, but certainly a different version.

    Bill
     
  15. Erik

    Erik If u don't know the poetry u don't know Bukowski First 9 Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    What poem is that? He has so many about the old brute.
    After watching BIT the other day I've been browsing poems in run with the hunted (1993) and came across the poem "my old man" where Buk treats his father with with an impressive, almost forgiving(!), amount of insight. Part of it goes like this:
    [...]
    one evening he walked in
    with the pages of
    one of my short stories
    (which I had never submitted
    to him)
    and he said, "this is
    a great short story."
    I said, "o.k.,"
    and he handed it to me
    and I read it.
    it was a story about
    a rich man
    who had a fight with
    his wife and had
    gone out into the night
    for a cup of coffee
    and had observed
    the waitress and the spoons
    and the forks and the
    salt and pepper shakers
    and the neon sign
    in the window
    and then had gone back
    to his stable
    to see and touch his
    favorite horse
    who then
    kicked him in the head
    and killed him.

    somehow
    the story held
    meaning for him
    though
    when I had written it
    I had no idea
    of what I was writing about.

    so I told him,
    "o.k., old man, you can
    have it."

    and he took it
    and walked out
    and closed the door.
    I guess that's
    as close
    as we ever got.

    A new reader will probably hardly notice this poem, but knowing what his dad put him thru its pretty impressive. Guess it could be called a "bluebird-poem" - and it was written as early as 1977. (This is completely different to Buk's "bitch-slapping" side.) I like the way he lets his father, almost respectfully, close the door when leaving. Nice touch.

    Also notice that Buk here describes one of his very early short stories (maybe).
    Guess we'll never know the true story behind the anger of Buk's father. Like what did he experience during his war-service? Does anyone remember any other poems like this? (PS: is "o.k." usually written with periods like this?)
     
  16. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 Redwood Original

    Erik,
    I used the ending of this poem in my dissertation precisely for the reason you mentioned: it's one of the few -if not the only- poem where B DOESN'T depict his father in harsh terms.
     
  17. mjp

    mjp President First 9 Reaper Crew Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    "my old man" originally appeared in Love is a Dog From Hell, for those of you who don't have the Run With the Hunted sampler...
     

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