Vancouver reading

Discussion in 'Video, audio, film and other media' started by mjp, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. mjp

    mjp Tell the children the truth Reaper Crew First 9 Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    Received my copies today. Just home from the desert though, so haven't looked at them yet.

    I guess a repressing depends on how long it takes them to sell the first run. Having said that, who knows - maybe once these are gone they will release some double disc set with extras or something. I know that there were poems cut from these readings (to avoid poem duplication between the two discs), so there's definitely more material available for something like a bonus disc or expanded set.

    Not that I would hold my breath waiting for that. These barely scraped their way out to the light of day after a long and painful process of trying to find distributors, etc., so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the first - and the last - batch of each of these.

    I don't really know either way if there will be more, and I doubt whether they know at this point either. Just my guess based on talking to Jon and Dennis.
     
  2. mjp

    mjp Tell the children the truth Reaper Crew First 9 Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    I've seen about half of the Vancouver reading so far. There are a couple people in the audience who seriously needed to have their asses kicked that night. It's funny for a while, then it's just tedious, the constant heckling. But maybe it will develop into some good theater. Maybe someone will kick the loudmouth's ass. ;) But again, I'm only part way through it.

    Reminds me of the Santa Barbara reading where a fight breaks out part way through. These were very punk rock poetry readings it would seem. Once again, Bukowski cannily reading the times and providing the entertainment the kids want. Ha.

    Video quality is good, about what I expected (meaning it ain't going to look perfect on your 50" HD plasma TV, but still really good), sound quality is very good. Good production overall!
     
  3. About the video quality of the Vancouver disc: I didn't expect the best quality, but are the lines and glitches on the actual film, or do I have a bad DVD? I think it's the former, but I'd like to be sure.

    Regardless, it's great, despite the assholes in the audience that night.
     
  4. Father Luke

    Father Luke First 9 Redwood Original

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  5. mjp

    mjp Tell the children the truth Reaper Crew First 9 Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    You talking about thin white horizontal lines at the very top and bottom of the screen sometimes? I noticed that too early on, but if they are there throughout I didn't notice them.

    The Vancouver show was taped on an obsolete 1" Sony videocassette that was so obscure that they had trouble finding a mastering joint that could get their hands on the hardware. Dennis had the tapes at the Huntington, and showed them to me. I had never seen the format before.

    Funny, he said, "I don't know what to do with these now. You want them?" and I said no. Maybe I should have said yes! Not sure what I would have done with them either though. But they sat on a high dusty shelf at Bukowski's house for 20+ years, that's good just for the story...
     
  6. hank solo

    hank solo Just practicin' steps and keepin' outta the fights Reaper Crew First 9 Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    :eek: :eek: :eek:

    Next time you're in contact with him, why not ask him if he still has them?
    I might know someone who'd like to put them on a high dusty shelf in the UK :cool:
     
  7. roni

    roni Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    sure you should have. it's about time to find a place of good preservation for this baby! I wonder why The Huntington seems to have no use for them. They would know how to preserve these the right way, I thought.

    If the tape was 1" it doesn't seem to be a U-Matic system (which I had expected). I wonder what system they used.
     
  8. mjp

    mjp Tell the children the truth Reaper Crew First 9 Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    Maybe they were open reel...I can't find a 1" Sony cassette-based video tape, but a few 1" open reel that would have been around at the time. I'll ask Dennis again what the hell they were.
     
  9. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 Redwood Original

    I'm watching the Vancouver reading right now... what's that fucking background music -polka?- you can hear there all the time? Crank the volume up during "We've got to communicate" -minute 54 or so- and you'll see what I mean...
     
  10. Father Luke

    Father Luke First 9 Redwood Original

    54 minutes 39 seconds. Polka music.
    I don't think it was intentionally edited in, however.

    Interestingly enough I do see the lines now.

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    What a great time.
    What a great video.
     
  11. mjp

    mjp Tell the children the truth Reaper Crew First 9 Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    Okay, I heard from Dennis. It was a 3/4 tape, so I was off there. Knowing that, I have to assume it was U-Matic, which shouldn't have been a problem to master, but Jon had the hardware anyway, so, no problems there.

    He commented on some other stuff in the thread too, and rather than give you my interpretation, I'll just cut and paste and hope he doesn't mind...

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    The "polka music" heard faintly in the background is just that. There was a band somewhere out the back and down the lane that night and unfortunately it squeezed through the wall or came in the back door and was loud enough to find its way onto the recording. Nothing can be done about it.

    And nothing can be done to alter some of the "assholes hecklers" who were there that night either. At one point, we had a serious incident when someone flung an empty wine bottle at the stage and it hit the curtain behind Hank and that's where you see the scramble to grab the individual and Hank utters the title, "There's gonna be a god damn riot in here."

    My friend George also talks about it in the 25th anniversary segment, about grabbing the guy and "boom" sitting on him and saying, "you can't be throwing things at the man, he's trying to give a poetry reading up there."

    By the way the woman interviewed in the 25th who talks about not seeing any beer come through the door is my ex. The same woman who yells that opening line in Born Into This, "Dennis, for Christ Sake Dennis, get him another bottle!"
     
  12. Father Luke

    Father Luke First 9 Redwood Original

    i love that.
     
  13. funny story.
     
  14. roni

    roni Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    cool story indeed!
     
  15. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 Redwood Original

    Hmm, that might explain it, but if you listen carefully, there's some other music when the polka piece is finished and then you can hear someone talking. It sounds as if a radio was playing while the transfer was done or as if the original tape was recorded on top of a pre-existing recording or...
     
  16. "Dennis, for Christ Sake Dennis, get him another bottle!"

    And it then looks like Dennis brings him half a bottle!

    Great video - who knew Canucks could be so rowdy :)
     
  17. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 Redwood Original

    B. was no punk!
     

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  18. Ponder

    Ponder "So fuck Doubleday Doran" Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    Nice:)
     
  19. cirerita

    cirerita First 9 Redwood Original

    Another review from 1979...
     

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  20. hank solo

    hank solo Just practicin' steps and keepin' outta the fights Reaper Crew First 9 Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    ...raving lowlife... :D
     
  21. Bukfan

    Bukfan "The law is wrong; I am right" Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    "You have my soul, I have your money!" :D
    Thanks, cirerita!
     
  22. mjp

    mjp Tell the children the truth Reaper Crew First 9 Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    I think I've said this before, but it reminds me of an old Stooges bootleg. People are screaming insults and pelting the stage with bottles and garbage, and Iggy says, "You paid five bucks, but I'm making ten thousand baby...so screw ya!"
     
  23. Is anyone else playing the drinking game while watching this?

    Pour and drink red wine whenever Hank does?
     
  24. Father Luke

    Father Luke First 9 Redwood Original

    he shoots. . .

    HE SCORES !

    That's some funny ass shit.
     
  25. Rekrab

    Rekrab Half right most the time, except when I'm wrong. Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    Okay, I bought the one -- There's Going To Be A Riot. Better wait until next month to get the other. Grocery budget is tight. This is safer than it seems. I probably won't space out and let it go o.p. without buying because the sense of incompleteness will nag away at me.

    Can't match Bukowski shot for shot -- red wine gives me headaches. Would a swallow of beer for every glass he fills count?
     
  26. Rekrab

    Rekrab Half right most the time, except when I'm wrong. Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    Oops, got the title wrong. It's "There's Gonna Be A God Damn Riot In Here." There; I feel better.

    I'm hoping this one makes me like Vancouver better. I hated the place the one time I visited. But then I was being grumpy at the end of a vacation, didn't want to leave Victoria for Vancouver, etc.
     
  27. HenryChinaski

    HenryChinaski First 9 Redwood Original

    yeah right, those people are so goddamn ungreatful that he came, he should've quit halfway through and just took their money. they talk more shit than he does. that one guy really pisses me off, shouting throughout the whole reading. why didn't Buk just say, "okay, somebody get this asshole out here!"

    at one point he even shouts "I'll walk out! You wouldn't want that, or would you?"

    its a good reading to have but that guy needs to have the shit beat out of him.

    apparently, that reading was on the night of the world series, and an argument arrises about the greatest game ever played...to which Buk replies, "You know what you can do with the great game of baseball..."

    It even seems to me that the drunker he gets, the better the reading gets.

    thanks dennis.
     
  28. Rekrab

    Rekrab Half right most the time, except when I'm wrong. Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    Now I'm worrying that I might have bought some peice of crap burn instead of the genuine article. Anyone know the name of the legitimate eBay seller of these DVDs? I've bought a few "rare factory original" films in VHS and DVD that were bad pirated copies. Always pisses me off. Please tell me I bought good ones. The seller I used was "mondaymedia." Let that be right...
     
  29. Father Luke

    Father Luke First 9 Redwood Original

    You got the genuine article, Sir.
     
  30. mjp

    mjp Tell the children the truth Reaper Crew First 9 Men of Mayhem Unholy Ones

    Oh, that was funny...I think he's saying it as a fussy poet might say it..."I'll walk out! I will! You'll see!" Ha ha - I laughed out loud at that one.

    A bit soon for knockoffs, but I wouldn't put it past the bootleggers.

    If you want to be sure, you can always order at full price from http://bukowskilive.com

    These are real, genuine manufactured DVDs, not cheapo burned copies.



    And no, I don't get any money from their sale. Ha ha. Someone emailed me this morning, "What's with the ADVERTISEMENT on the buk site?? I though you said you'd never sell out and sell advertising on the site! Fucking hypocrit!!!" (sic)
     

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