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  1. Olaf

    When did you discover Bukowski?

    Hey Johannes, Good to hear from you. I am well. I grew up. Just a little bit. Devastating. ;) I still see a lot of people on here from way back then. Whatever happen to Dam Dusky? Or Dusty? I have been dipping in and out of Bukowski again after coming back into the sight and being inspired or...
  2. Olaf

    Burning Typescript

    Yep, fair enough, though 'drinking' and 'drunk' are aspects of tense and don't necessarily change the meaning in a significant way. 'he took a drink' 'he got drunk' are different but not in a meaningful way that would distort meaning. Only a tiny shift in tense. But I get you, I do, I...
  3. Olaf

    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    I've spent most of the day trawling through them and I do hear you. Some of them are total howlers! Or just weak. Deflating. Cumbersome. So yeah. I am tending towards 'view them as duds' what is interesting though is my first full collection of Bukowski's was 'What matters most is how well you...
  4. Olaf

    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    It doesn't say that much, does it? That it is OK to edit? Bukowski edited a lot anyway. I'm not being puritanical? It is OK to edit a work and it still retain the whole of its meaning? Literally changing a verb or a noun here or there, is normal editing. It doesn't corrupt the poem or commit...
  5. Olaf

    Burning Typescript

    I'm curious, where is the original version? I have 'what matters most' and the typed version and the version in the book are the exact same? Is there a link to the apparently 'mutilated' version? OK. I have found the change in the first stanza. Again though, they don't actually change anything...
  6. Olaf

    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    Thanks. That's a lot of work to find. Take for example 'So you want to be a writer' originally titled 'Do you want to be in the arena?' There are some edits however they don't actually change or destroy the meaning of the poem at all. So there really isn't anything 'wrong' with the edits...
  7. Olaf

    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    The first collection I read was 'what matters most is how well you walk through the fire' (one of the first books to allegedly be 'edited' a little bit too much) and I still loved the book. The Bukowski tone, attitude and tone had not been butchered out of the writing at all. I came to that book...
  8. Olaf

    When did you discover Bukowski?

    I discovered him online in the late 90's. I can't be sure. Maybe 1998/9. The first poem i READ was on a website called '' and the poem was posted by another writer 'for jane' and it really struck me. Particularly the line: 'I kneel in the nights before tigers that will not let...
  9. Olaf

    sifting through the madness

    Hi, I don't have a copy of 'Sifting through the madness' on me but I was trying to find a poem in it, it goes something like 'no one is more hard done by than the average white man' and the poem lists a whole load of 'homosexual black lesbian feminist' poets etc. etc. I really wanted to show...
  10. Olaf

    Interview in British Spike Magazine

    Great interview, you mention so many interesting connections with Bukowski, the writing, influence etc. Really comes across as a considered, insightful, interview. As they say in Czech, super. :)
  11. Olaf

    The cruelty of loveless love?

    Oddly, she never died on a boat.
  12. Olaf

    Bukowski - paying poems.

    I like how this thread is going. It's true prose can feed, poetry is for the mind. But, if you're in it for the money, you're a luneball.I used to make 30 pounds for writing short consumer articles for a guy who ran a student magazine. I have also sold about 10 copies of my book for 5 pounds...
  13. Olaf

    Bukowski - paying poems.

    These days it seems that there are so many people alive at the same time that there is just a saturation of everything, and everyone. Millions of poets. Millions of painters. Millions of joiners. Millions of students. Millions of gas men. Millions of plumbers. Millions of teachers. Total...
  14. Olaf

    Who were the 10 greatest American writers of the 20th century?

    I don't have a correct numerical order. Not because I'm mathophobic. I just don't know who is the best. Not even sure I know ten American writers I love. Though I do love these few in extremis: Charles Bukowski Kurt Vonnegut Carson McCullers Walt Whitman e.e. cummings James Ellroy (My Dark...
  15. Olaf

    Ask the Dust by John Fante

    I read Ask the Dust, when I was working in Italy. It was great; the relationship between Bandini and Lopez, is one of the most beautiful, and intense, I have read of. I mean that. There were so many comparisons with Bukowski - the hotel dwelling, struggling wrtier, living with lots of odd...
  16. Olaf

    More Intelligent People Are More Likely to Binge Drink and Get Drunk

    This woman is actually a particle physicist. She is so intelligent she drank herself into alcoholic paralysis. 'To reach the stars...' she said 'I want to know what it feels like to be fucked by a Celestial mechanic, in a super massive hole.'
  17. Olaf

    More Intelligent People Are More Likely to Binge Drink and Get Drunk

    Behold the onslaught of anecdotal evidence.....How many people have tested this hypothesis - not to return to the land of the living, the next day, I wonder...? Mind you, it doesn't say drinking a lot is itself a good thing, only that intelligent people often do it. And, intelligence isn't...
  18. Olaf

    More Intelligent People Are More Likely to Binge Drink and Get Drunk

    The conceit is, if you believe this article, you're an idiot.
  19. Olaf

    Bukowski in a Czech girlie mag

    I have a girly Czech boyfriend. He should be able to translate. I'll ask him. I've come to realise that homosexuals are actually just like everyone else - a lot of dancing while they die.
  20. Olaf

    I have some random questions.

    Dear teacher, I have a question: How long did Bukowski go to creative writing class for? Was it creative writing or simply journalism? I heard it was 2 Linda Buuuukaaaaaaski interview and she said 2 years. I wonder who was in that class with him, what they made of him, or what...
  21. Olaf

    Photo of Buk that I have never seen

    He did write before 35 - surely? Not much, well there's nothing left to find - but surely he did? Not that it matters. He didn't 'write' anything worthwhile, until 35, is another way to put it. Like the picture.
  22. Olaf

    did this bukowski delongpre court link ever get posted?

    I take it some people on here think the house should be kept? Was this the last house he lived in? I don't see real reason to keep it standing. And knowing the beau-rock-racy always wins (sadly) it will no doubt be knocked asunder. Birth, death, and re-birth. Let the house go. They can't...
  23. Olaf

    The Enabler: King Eddy Saloon and liver regicide

    The smoking ban does make a lot of sense. But why did they not simply have - smoking and non smoking bars? Or smoking upstairs or downstairs - why did it become an all encompassing blanket ban? I understand the health reasons and the smell, that all makes sense, but once you start seeing a...
  24. Olaf

    The Enabler: King Eddy Saloon and liver regicide

    The ban has been in place throughout Europe for years now, in Glasgow everyone stands outside the door, or the pubs even set up wee outdoor heated areas for smokers - in pubs, clubs and dance halls - so they cater for us. But it's interesting to see a global policy being put in place, it...
  25. Olaf

    Alcoholism - why didn't it destroy Bukowski?

    I'm not kidding. Glasgow has a horrific alcohol problem. Many of my family have serious alcohol problems, it's ruined their lives, they've ruined other peoples. Sometimes I think people read Bukowski and think he is advocating drinking all the time and lots of people do it; they think it's cool...