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  1. Chrisw

    "Bucking the take" ?

    You got it buddy.... There is an old term for betting against what the public thinks is the best bet -- "copper the public" -- see Roger Bacon's classic book Secrets of Professional Turf Betting. (Yes, I used to play the ponies now and then... but just for kicks. The only gambling I do now is...
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    "Bucking the take" ?

    No, the take is what the track "takes" off the bets -- their cut, i.e., if you bet $2, the track gets 30 cents (15%) for itself and the rest ($1.70) goes back in the pool with everyone else's bets. So, that's why he says if you bet 9 times that's $2.70 you have to win just break-even, or 135% of...
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    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    Shoot even his early books are not entirely untouched... for example in Mockingbird there is a poem titled "get the nose." The manuscript differs from the published version in 2 places: The addition of "I said" on line 12... and the removal of the last 2 lines of the poem: "kill him, he makes...
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    Bukowski, A Life: The Centennial Edition

    Coming in July... Bukowski, A Life: The Centennial Edition by Neeli Cherkovski via @amazon
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    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    Reading this makes me pine for the rest of the Back to the Machine Gun series (stuck at vol 3 of a planned 8) but there are plenty of manuscripts on this site to hunt down poems, plus the many books published when he was alive...
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    When did you discover Bukowski?

    I don't remember, oddly enough, given how much I like him... His work grew on me - it was a slow burn, like charcoal. I started with Burning in Water one summer at Ocean City on vacation... c. 2005. I loved it... but I didn't go out right away and buy more stuff. It took some time... and then...
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    Thirst Trap

    Haha -- great response!
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    Thirst Trap

    A little rough on Bukowski, but thought it worth sharing... Thirst Trap A sober look at Charles Bukowski's alcoholism. BY JASON DIAMOND https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/150621/thirst-trap
  9. Chrisw

    Upcoming: The Mathematics of the Breath and the Way

    Great little essay... thanks for posting!
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    Upcoming: The Mathematics of the Breath and the Way

    What? The Mathematics of the Breath and the Way: On Writers and Writing Paperback – May 15, 2018 by Charles Bukowski (Author)
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    Favourite Picture of Bukowski

    This one....
  12. Chrisw

    Outgrowing Bukowski

    Tastes can change. I remember I used to love Henry Miller and Kurt Vonnegut, but it's been a long time since I've given either any thought. But then there are some writers that, for whatever reason, I never lose interest in or whose books inspire me on some level... For me Buk is in that...
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    Essential Bukowski: Poetry

    I'd love to see Bukowski Back to the Machinegun: Manuscripts Vol 4... Man, tell that collective to get it in gear! :-) Seriously, though... wonder when they'll finish their planned 8 volumes... Do they need cash? What's the hold up I wonder? Hmm...
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    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    This is a bummer... Perhaps a coincidence, though I doubt it, that Betting the Muse ranks dead last by a long way in poetry collections as voted by members here.
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    On Cats

    Review of On Cats, from the South China Post: http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/books/article/1860665/review-cats-gathers-charles-bukowskis-reflections-creatures-he-loved
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    On Cats

    I think an On Writing collection is fine. There is plenty of precedent for that: Hemingway On Writing, Henry Miller on Writing, etc. But cats? Love? I dunno...
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    Unbroken Circle

    Funny, I just finished - in the last month - Ask the Dust. Re-read it. A good read and you can see how he influenced Buk...
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    Which Bukowski do you like more?

    I like all versions... really, it's hard to choose. Each is a little different but still has a lot to offer. Hard choice... Forced to choose, I go with Burning in Water, Drowning in Flame because it was the first book of his I read. Tragedy of the Leaves is a good little poem and I've been...
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    The Bell Tolls For No One - New Buk Story Collection From City Lights

    I got The Bell Tolls... and On Writing on the same day - two new Buk books to read! I was surprised by the small size of The Bell Tolls... (which MJP mentions above) but it's a nice-looking book, opens easy and has a good slick cover.
  20. Chrisw

    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    True... but at least for me, I was one of those who just thought the later Buk was different from the earlier Buk, or that the posthumous Buk was somehow "leftovers." It was only the work of MJP and this forum that explained all for me. I'm thankful.
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    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    There is also a letter to Carl Weissner (January 15, 1979) in the On Writing collection (which I'm reading now). Buk writes that, re: Women, "John Martin and I are at it - I claim he has inserted too much of his writing into the novel.... I really feel he has changed my wordage too much...
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    Book on Bukowski friend Steve Richmond

    Haha... I love this forum. Buk would be proud.
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    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    True. I like to do that too, every now and then. That'd be the only reason to keep them. In fact, I did this last night. Read a poem called The Hollywood Hustle. And the slimed version has a particularly absurd change at the end. You want to laugh (or cry), check this out. The authentic...
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    The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press

    I'm curious to know what you all have done with your posthumous Buk poetry books. Have you thrown them away, purged them from your collections? I have taken my off my Buk shelf and put them in a box in a closet... but I have a hard time chucking them, for unknown reasons - maybe just a gut...
  25. Chrisw

    if you like bukowski...

    If you like Buk... you'll probably like James Thurber, Mark Twain and Hunter Thompson. At least I do. All comic, in their way, aware of the absurdities of human life but there is also a sort of underlying melancholy to it all.
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