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No problem! like I said, I'm used to it at work. And hats off to you for all the effort you're putting into this. :)

Damn... this is just like the list for coffee-money on the bulletin board at work. I'm always one of the last to pay there too. Must be the "frozen man" inside of me - paralized by the thought of doing a foreign currency transaction... So much easier to work the word than the world! :o

Agreed, this is THE best thread in a long time. Heh heh. Worlds are bound to collide on the Internet you know.:p

He also wrote something like: "I started to like what I saw in the mirror - handsome in a Bogart sort of way..."

A long hard slow endurance And what does Factotum (the book) say about this? Perhaps that Chinaski doesn't: Getting below the surface of the Buk-myth is what this movie is about, I think. A myth is a powerful thing, but after a while you understand that there are plenty of pockmarked, ugly...

Hmmm, this statement got me thinking. Does Factotum (or Post Office for that matter) make a point of describing Chinaski as ugly? - or is this a case of us mixing Buk with Chinaski? I'm not sure myself. I know Ham on Rye describes the ugliness though... So: How is Chinaski actually described...

True enough Sam, and well rambled. Of course its stupid pitting Buk and Bob against each other. I like your pointing out that they actually have similarities. Still... lines like the above just don't do it for me. Especially the first one. I can see they're highly original, and well-crafted -...

Isn't there an episode in Ham on Rye where Henry's father tries to force him to eat with his right hand - even though he's left handed? Or is this from a poem somewhere? Or maybe its my left-handed imagination running wild again? :D

Ahhh but there you go yourself, idolizing a definition of the term POETIC and LYRICAL "without question". The "poetic devices" you so admire in Dylan's lines (not the ones he took from blues and folk music!), are just a couple of hundred years old. They showed up in the "romantic" era of the...

Awwwwwww come on!... wouldn't you rather be "the world's best plumber" and give up the useless scribbling??? ;)

The hardcover version of Women is nice with one of Buk's doodles on the front. I also like the cover of Betting on the Muse. Did Montfort take the pic?

Welcome o most experienced one! ;) Now how about telling us about your first Bukowski-read in 1964. Thats more interesting than the posthumous stuff! Must have been exciting to follow his rise to fame from obscurity. Have you seen the following thread: https://bukowskiforum.com/showthread.php?t=28

I actually liked the "bad syntax"... interesting to see spoken word direct on paper.;)

I'll meet you half way: I liked it better the second time I saw too. And yes, I admit it, I saw it twice at the movies. :D

Hear, hear! The thing is, I think Buk understood the mentality underlying Nazism (as well as a host of other "mentalities"). Nazism worked (works) because it tapped certain basic instincts present in human nature. Buk may have explored these instincts, in his writing, but that doesn't make...

I've seen the movie on both the silver and TV screen now and must admit it works way better in a movie theater. Many scenes lose their effect on a small screen. Like the one were "A poem is a city" is read. Factotum is a lot more visual than Bar Fly in this way. This is interesting because...

Honestly Cirerita: you've practically paved the way for a new collection of unpublished Bukoems here. Alle John Martin or Linda Lee need to do is browse thru your postings. Are you reading this John & Linda? Cirerita should be given credit! Loved the two lines: not even a dead cat...

Whoaaa MJ! who mentioned Hamsun's personality? I'm talking about actual, concrete deeds and actions. The guy supported Adolf H, whose cronies murdered thousands of Hamsun's countrymen. I don't have a clue about his personality though. Hamsun's writing was an action and his political deeds...

Of course my opinion on Hamsun most likely has something to do with my upbringing. Both my parents grew up in Norway during the Nazi occupation in WW2, and when asked about Hamsun they usually start their reply with something like: "you mean the Nazi?" or some such... For some reason they...

Writing and life should always be linked. Good writing isn't neutral just because its good writing. Hitler was just as gifted as an orator as Hamsun was as a writer. They both duped ppl in similar ways, thru technique with flawed content. This is a common weakness in many writers. Good...

Keep in mind though that Hamsun was a Nazi and a traitor to rival Quisling.:mad: His real name was Knud Pedersen. When Hitler died he wrote an obituary in a leading Norwegian newspaper praising Hitler's greatness! Hitler in turn much admired Hamsun. Hamsun could write but he couldn't think...

Good point... I like a shot of Jaegermeister with a beer chaser. Gives you a quick jolt at the end of the day, without too much of a hangover on the morrow...

I doubt if the new album will be another Tonight's the Night though...:)

Look at it this way: to be so negative, disgusted/disappointed with ppl & society you've gotta have a lot of positive expectations to life. Buk wasn't negative - the world was/is! Get it? He was just showing it as it is. The ppl who don't give a flying fuck are the negative ones, like glad...

Thanks Cirerita. Interesting piece. But I'm pretty sure I've read this someplace else before, and I don't have Horsemeat. Maybe it was in a fanzine or some such? Funny thing: the spell checker wanted to correct Horsemeat to horse meat. Is Buk's spelling spesial in this way?