Well, they are necessary now, aren't they, but probably not financially viable. Small market for such an ambitious task. But when it does happen (and I'm sure it will) it will be after Mr. Martin and Mrs. Bukowski are both safely in their graves. And maybe longer than that, depending on how Marina feels about it. I assume (but have no idea if it's really so) that she will inherit the rights that Mrs. Bukowski now exercises.it makes me wonder if new editions based on the original manuscripts will be necessary at some point in the future.
Too many to count.I wonder how many poems have been changed the same way...
A naive type might surmise that Bukowski himself retooled a poem such as another day and thus the vast differences -
We probably will get the answer at some point. There have to be working manuscripts in the BSP archive, and assuming a collection was sent to Bukowski in manuscript form, we could see his corrections on it. But I don't even know if Martin sent the collection manuscripts to Bukowski for a final revision. We know that early on he did not; Bukowski (or Francis or whoever he could get to type) transcribed the poems from the little magazines and sent them off. But later I'm sure Martin did send a manuscript copy, Bukowski says as much when he's talking about the first edition of Women, which he admits he did not proofread very carefully:What bothers me is that we can suppose all we want, offer theories about which poems were altered by someone other than Buk, but we don't get the answer for sure.
The poem linked from the first post in this thread is an example of another glaring inconsistency. Can anyone reasonably explain why he would revise something that was already in a collection? He wasn't busy enough writing new poems I suppose. He went through his old books and revised, just for the hell of it, then said, "Here John, if you ever reprint this, make these changes." Sure, that's probably what happened.
Indeed, we have examples of the same poem - in sometimes quite different form - in two separate manuscripts. I intend to put up a page of examples of those when I finish the latest manuscript additions (a long time from now).What sometimes did happen is that Bukowski sent Martin a poem and later on -usually a month or two- a revised version of the same poem (without a word of warning). Martin used one of the versions while B. was alive and then used the second version (which Bukowski had revised years ago, probably changing the title) in a posthumous collection.
And at this point in time, I'm afraid that I'm way beyond being able to give Martin the benefit of the doubt where these differences are concerned. Quite the opposite; now I assume that the changes were made at Black Sparrow. If not by Martin himself, by someone who worked for him. Someone who was not Bukowski.
[...] I am no editor and would hate to be one. Martin wasn't one either, he was Bukowskis publisher. [...]