Ethnocentric, xenophobic, racist, anti-Semite, misogynist, homophobe, etc., etc. Yet the worst of these, Bieberism,
is somehow tolerated and yes, even condoned. We are doomed.
is somehow tolerated and yes, even condoned. We are doomed.
Bukowski in Iran
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Yes it does.
If you don't see the irony in your lid-flipping over "Americans opinions of Iran" when you yourself are American, I don't know what else to say to you.
I thought we were rid of you anyway, but you are persistent, I'll give you that.
Iran is not like this. Like I told you, Iran has the number 1 Stem Cell Research facility. You're accepting the stuff you're told from mainstream media.Why don't you study a bit more about Iran?
I bet Bukowski would have liked Hafez. Hafez drank like crazy, much like Li Bai. Bukowski expressed admiration to Li Bai.
Theocracy can work if the religion is moderate and accepting. The Safavids followed a Sufi form of Islam. Sufism began in Iran, if you didn't know... with figures like Attar, Rumi, Shams Tabrizi, and etc. Rumi and Shams Tabrizi were lovers too... Homosexuality used to be accepted in Post-Islamic Persia/Iran.
I look European and light-skinned, but my accent has given me hell. I have never been accepted as American.
Wrong my friend! I have it on the best authority that Bieberism is OPENLY practiced in the streets of Tehran.
To deny this is just irrational and provocative.
To deny this is just irrational and provocative.
Skygazer
And in the end...
Look, Catsrgodz, no one here is a hater or a racist, or attacking your heritage - it's wonderful. I'm sorry your accent has made you feel unaccepted.
Iranians are beautiful looking people, like a lot of middle easterners. Just calm down and understand no one wants to attack you. You were the one
being hostile, maybe as a defense.
It's more accurate to say Iran condones transgenderism. Ayatollah Khomenei was a bit nuts and wrote in his fanatical book that homosexuality is haram but transgenderism is okay. His book is filled with incoherent nonsense, such as, "If one falls in-between the cracks of an earthquake, it's Halal to have unclean sex."
There were more moderate mullahs at that time... Mohammad Reza Pahlavi should have at least killed Khomeini when he put him into exile... If Iran were a bit more moderate, I wouldn't hesitate to move there... Then again Iran's environment is a mess... A recent sand storm hit it with no forewarning!
That's my primary issue with post-industrial capitalism - how it destroys the environment. It would make sense for everyone to eat locally, have some familiarity with self-sustainable techniques, and live in a permaculture-like setting. Then again, that's too idealistic. I definitely do not view this country "progressive" in the least. If it were progressive, Jill Stein would be elected. I've gone WWOOFing in the past, and one of my dreams is to get away from everyone and live on a farm with goats and a vegetable garden. Bukowski in one of his interviews said he wished he could get far away from people.
My whole point is given how much America demonizes Iran - they are in a sense a mirror of it. Bukowski's poetry seems to point at that too... the gutters, the whorehouse, and how people don't work together ultimately. I honestly cannot speak for countries like Germany or Scandinavian countries where workers unions and etc. are much stronger, and the school system is more logically constructed. Granted, they generally don't feel like policing the world, and they make their intentions clear when they were colonializing other countries (e.g., when France occupied Vietnam, they were basically exploiting it and everyone knew).
I feel like my brain became lesioned in the process of getting my B.S. in the painful, nauseating academia of USA, which won't even land me decent job prospects. Sick, sick country to act like it knows what's best for others... People should worry about themselves before patronizing the practices of another country.
Well as a resident of Pyongyang, DPRK, I have to say I feel your pain. I feel very misunderstood by the Yankee dog.
We really are brothers under the skin!
We really are brothers under the skin!
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