These days it seems that there are so many people alive at the same time that there is just a saturation of everything, and everyone. Millions of poets. Millions of painters. Millions of joiners. Millions of students. Millions of gas men. Millions of plumbers. Millions of teachers.
Total saturation.
So, back in Bukowski time, particularly 1965, there were literally LESS people alive, less poets, less painters, less joiners, less students, less gas men, less plumbers, less teachers.
Now a poet can hardly make a penny submitting poems. We all submit them to FREE online publications. And you know what, there are more submissions, than there are readers. Webzines and magazines get hundreds of submissions, but a handful of buyers/readers.
It might be true that regardless of the sheer number of people, quality will always be recognised, now or later.
My question is, how much did Bukowski make for individual poems? There was more of a monetayr gain in those days? - I know poetry doesn't pay. But, surely you got a few dollars, here and there? Or, was that not so?
It just seems there are so many people alive getting poems published online, yet they make no money, there is no real 'recognition', it is just an ocean of amateur poetry, drowing, drowning due to the sheer tidal NUMBER of people. It's like there is no room for anything new. There is an excess. An excess of sincere but mediocre, imitative poetry.
How much did Bukowski make per poem? Did he publish lots when he started, for free, like all of us? I know there are magazines out there that do pay. Harder to get accepted. Would Bukowski of submitted to that sort of market?
The ramble is mine, thoughts herding in the paragraph like cattle, little cows of meaning, please, let me know your thoughts.
Olaf.
Total saturation.
So, back in Bukowski time, particularly 1965, there were literally LESS people alive, less poets, less painters, less joiners, less students, less gas men, less plumbers, less teachers.
Now a poet can hardly make a penny submitting poems. We all submit them to FREE online publications. And you know what, there are more submissions, than there are readers. Webzines and magazines get hundreds of submissions, but a handful of buyers/readers.
It might be true that regardless of the sheer number of people, quality will always be recognised, now or later.
My question is, how much did Bukowski make for individual poems? There was more of a monetayr gain in those days? - I know poetry doesn't pay. But, surely you got a few dollars, here and there? Or, was that not so?
It just seems there are so many people alive getting poems published online, yet they make no money, there is no real 'recognition', it is just an ocean of amateur poetry, drowing, drowning due to the sheer tidal NUMBER of people. It's like there is no room for anything new. There is an excess. An excess of sincere but mediocre, imitative poetry.
How much did Bukowski make per poem? Did he publish lots when he started, for free, like all of us? I know there are magazines out there that do pay. Harder to get accepted. Would Bukowski of submitted to that sort of market?
The ramble is mine, thoughts herding in the paragraph like cattle, little cows of meaning, please, let me know your thoughts.
Olaf.