Early Uncharacteristic Abstract (1 Viewer)

[zoom man]

What all do you guys think of this?

It's from Crucifix in a Deathhand.
It seems like a highly unusuall 'drawing' but I haven't seen any other such early examples.
(And what does it look like?!)
Thanks for any and all input,
Eric

 

[theeffects]

that is very interesting..
I wish my copy had that drawing! (assuming Buk penned it...). It's definitely not the type of art we are used to seeing from B. I've been staring at it for a few moments and it's abstract, so it's OPEN to opinion as far as what 'it' is...
I'd be curious to see what others think?!

 

[hoochmonkey9]

not totally uncharacteristic...

 

[Olaf]

I like it.

i would hazard a guess and say it was
the human form in abstract form.

 

[Rekrab]

Nice. Looks like a man on a horse to me. Buk had a relaxed, easy way with abstracts. Loose and sure. I'd say it's a good drawing.

 

[zoom man]

Loose and sure indeed,
Thanks David,
I whole-heartedly agree...
Even in such an early example he doesn't seem to hesitate
Or be wishy-washy in any way.

I get a very musical feel from the drawing,
Like them Tiki (?!) figures that are so in vogue now;
But these three guys are stringing instruments in my head,
Not blowing. ;)

BTW-> (and this should be a new thread)
Speaking hypothetically :cool:
Let's say this copy of Death is missing that elusive wrap-around band,
And so I got it cheaper than I should have.
Would anyone have a problem with me finding a cheap/beat-up copy with a fine wrap-around band and stealing said band to include with this beautiful copy?

Let the arrows fly.....:D

 

[mjp]

He did similar art in some copies of It Catches:

Though I think that one may be a snake around a flower or something...but it has an abstract quality to it. ;)

 

[Rekrab]

Now that one in It Catches is a snake and flower.

 

[Rekrab]

Let's say this copy of Death is missing that elusive wrap-around band,
And so I got it cheaper than I should have.
Would anyone have a problem with me finding a cheap/beat-up copy with a fine wrap-around band and stealing said band to include with this beautiful copy?

Zoom man: I don't think that would happen. The band would be the first part of the book to catch hell, like a dj on another book. You'd never, realistically, find a beat up copy with a nice band. Book dealers / collectors sometimes do "marry" the nice parts of two copies of the same book, same edition. I think that's called a sophisticated copy, and it's considered evil, slightly disreputable, or okay, depending on how fussy you are. What you might find is a copy that is written in, stained, or with a page torn out, but in otherwise good condition, and with a nice band you can steal. Personally, I'm fine with people doing this, unless it gets into massive restoration that you don't tell a buyer about; then it's unethical not to disclose it.

 

[bongobill]

i don't particularly care for bukowski's drawings

 

[theeffects]

not totally uncharacteristic...

I tend to agree with you; "I" think he was a MUCH better writer than painter/artist. The example 'hoochmonkey' linked looks (once again, to 'me') bad/amateurish, but I really like the two examples (especially the top one) from CRUCIFIX. That's a nice copy you have!

 

[hoochmonkey9]

I find his drawings/paintings were hit and miss. but, really, he never claimed to be a painter. but that being said, I think his instincts were pretty good.

 

[theeffects]

I think it would be an excellent book/item to PRESENT the artwork of Bukowski... I think it's a GREAT idea and you could span the abstract, doodles, etc.. works he created...
?

 

[mjp]

That has been discussed here before, though with the best paintings in "art book" form, not the doodles. There is actually a small art book publisher who has expressed interest, but I don't know about the logistics of photographing a good cross section of the art...it is so scattered around...

 

[theeffects]

Should we assume John Martin/BSP never photographed, kept record of the paintings that went out with the hardcovers...?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Another Crucifix abstract, though he looks like he was aiming for something. Any ideas?

 

[Purple Stickpin]

Any ideas?

It looks a bit like a Gort aspiring to something higher. Beyond that, I've got nothing. At 9:55 PM, I'm thinking that Buk was 14 beers in and not thinking too much. My saffron covered copy has a very similar flower sans the red highlighting (but done in red, not black), for whatever that's worth.

 

[roni]

Any ideas?

I imagine him sitting in The Webb's appartment while drawing, having a look at the interiour-architecture, focusing on what could be stairs inside the room.
The thing at the bottom, however, could as well be a tombstone.