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yeah Fuck the mouse!
Father Luke
Founding member
I'd fuck his wife.
If it would help, I mean.
If it would help, I mean.
'Disneyland: the archetype of the simulated city. A city in which illusion becomes reality; in which the hopes and dreams of the ideal world are realized. The crowd at Disneyland is a warm one, people are friends, laughter, joy, imagination and creativity abound. No body cries in Disneyland. Just like a real city, the crowd (the population) are directed in ordered currents and flows. We follow arrows, we stand in lines, just as we drive between the painted lines of the street. Disneyland is, in miniature, the ideal American city. Rules are obeyed because there is no alternative. Here is a city where murder, rape and adultery do not exist.' - Baudrillard
I have written one or two LOFTY essays on the issue of Disneyland (indirectly Mickey Mouse) and despite the pretentious academic language, I think it reads quite well, and it just as stark as the above quality. Regardless of the academia, when I read Baudrillard on Disneyland, I am constantly blown away by how accurate a descrption of the 'logic' of disneyland. It's fucking nuts. We live in wild times: madness is quite sane these days, very dangerous.
I have written one or two LOFTY essays on the issue of Disneyland (indirectly Mickey Mouse) and despite the pretentious academic language, I think it reads quite well, and it just as stark as the above quality. Regardless of the academia, when I read Baudrillard on Disneyland, I am constantly blown away by how accurate a descrption of the 'logic' of disneyland. It's fucking nuts. We live in wild times: madness is quite sane these days, very dangerous.
Digney in Burnaby
donkeys live a long time
I guess I've lived in a vacuum (hoover me) because until recently I didn't even realize Bukowski had an opinion on Mickey or Walt.
The short sequence in Born Into This that includes William Packard speaking on an essay he wrote justifying the inclusion of Bukowski in the New York Quarterly and Linda B. saying that Buk didn't like the Mouse was the first time I'd heard anything.
Are there direct quotes (not someone saying he said something) from Bukowski re. Mickey Mouse?
Personally, I kind of like the old 1930s comic strips done by Floyd Gottfredson. Romping adventures featuring funny animals.
the BIT flick was the first time I heard that as well but I recall a story/poem - can't recall which one offhand, might be in 'erections' etc. - where he goes on a run listing things he didn't like and threw Mickey in the mix.
good read olaf, thanks -now I understand why I didn't like going to disneyland when I was a kid.
yep! that's one of my fav moments in In Tales of Ordinary Madness ( and therefore, I suppose, Erections...) When an editor takes Buk into a drugstore to wait on a bus...
"I've got to go by my prejudices and neuroses because that's all I've got to go buy...I don't like drug stores...Mickey Mouse....."
"I've got to go by my prejudices and neuroses because that's all I've got to go buy...I don't like drug stores...Mickey Mouse....."
Digney in Burnaby
donkeys live a long time
Okay, I see the line "Bukowski thought Mickey Mouse was a nazi..." in I Shot A Man In Reno from Erections.
Not a lot to work with there, but a beginning. Seems he wasn't too impressed with Mr. Cash either. Anniversary of that Folsom Prison LP just recently.
I'm going to try to chase down the Packard essay. The local university library does have NYQ in bound volumes.
Not a lot to work with there, but a beginning. Seems he wasn't too impressed with Mr. Cash either. Anniversary of that Folsom Prison LP just recently.
I'm going to try to chase down the Packard essay. The local university library does have NYQ in bound volumes.
Digney in Burnaby
donkeys live a long time
From "My Stay in the Poet's Cottage" (Tales of Ordinary Madness, City Lights, p. 87:
"there's nothing wrong with drugstores, buk, the editor says.
and I know another guy who says 'there's nothing wrong with war.' but jesus christ, I've got to go with my neuroses and prejudices because that's all I've got to go by. I don't like drugstores, I don't like campus cafeterias, I don't like Shetland ponies and I don't like Disneyland and I don't like motorcycle policemen and I don't like yogurt and I don't like the Beatles and Charley Chaplin and I don't like windowshades and that big blob of manic-depressive hair that falls over Bobby Kennedy's forehead.... jesus, jesus, I turned to the prof. -- this guy's been printing me for ten years, hundreds of poems and HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHO I AM!"
I suppose the editor in question is Webb.
CarversDog
RIP
I've been skimming through Neil Gabler's 800-page bio (yes, you read that right, 800 pages) of Walt Disney and the man was an absolute dictator at the studio; his only interest after a certain point in time was the Disneyland theme park and he resented the fact that film production work kept him away from the park. He had a nasty habit of arbitrarily firing people and then hiring them back a week later to create insecurity and loyalty. Some of the best filmed product Walt Disney Studios produced in the early 60's was stuff that Walt only had a passing interest in.
Father Luke
Founding member
There was a joke on the internet, I never
researched it, so I have to say it's a joke, that
when Walt died, there were rumors, of course, that
he had been frozen for a later time, through Cryogenics.
Hearing that their boss had been frozen, the staff
said, "That ought to raise his temperature a few degrees."
It's because of Disney's lobbying efforts that the term of copyright in the US was extended to 90 years. How many great, dead authors' books are mouldering when they could have been re-issued and widely distributed under public domain? Thanks for fucking things up for readers, Mickey, you rodenty cock.
way after the fact but - came across this while browsing the 'words' section:
Kaye: To get down to more serious matters, what influence do you feel Mickey Mouse has had on the American imagination?
Bukowski: Tough. Tough, indeed. I would say that Mickey Mouse had a greater influence on the American public than Shakespeare, Milton, Dante, Rabelais, Shostakovich, Lenin, and/or Van Gogh. Which say "What?" about the American public. Disneyland remains the central attraction of Southern California, but the graveyard remains our reality.
great closing line, as usual
Kaye: To get down to more serious matters, what influence do you feel Mickey Mouse has had on the American imagination?
Bukowski: Tough. Tough, indeed. I would say that Mickey Mouse had a greater influence on the American public than Shakespeare, Milton, Dante, Rabelais, Shostakovich, Lenin, and/or Van Gogh. Which say "What?" about the American public. Disneyland remains the central attraction of Southern California, but the graveyard remains our reality.
great closing line, as usual
The mouse has a soul. It's the soul of marketing. Where would we be without all the hello kitties, Scrubbing Bubbles, Ronald McDonalds, or Elvis commemorative plates.
We would be surrounded by quality shit, that's where.
Anyways... I'm new to this forum. I didn't know where to start, and I saw the title of this thread. Seemed fitting.
I'm also new to the Bukowski Collection. It's good so far.
Hello.
We would be surrounded by quality shit, that's where.
Anyways... I'm new to this forum. I didn't know where to start, and I saw the title of this thread. Seemed fitting.
I'm also new to the Bukowski Collection. It's good so far.
Hello.
CarversDog
RIP
Hello, Goner.
I dunno. I have a soft spot in my heart for the old vintage black-and-white Mickey cartoons, the "Steamboat Willie" days, but those were the days when things were more innocent -- troubled times, mind you, we had a Great Depression going on, but it didn't take much to make people laugh. A simple Mickey Mouse cartoon. But then it all went to hell after the war and Walt began making those midnight sojourns to the Death Valley from his home in Beverly Hills, down on his knees there on the desert floor, devouring the still-beating heart of an iguana while he rips at its flesh with his canine-like teeth.
So it goes.
I dunno. I have a soft spot in my heart for the old vintage black-and-white Mickey cartoons, the "Steamboat Willie" days, but those were the days when things were more innocent -- troubled times, mind you, we had a Great Depression going on, but it didn't take much to make people laugh. A simple Mickey Mouse cartoon. But then it all went to hell after the war and Walt began making those midnight sojourns to the Death Valley from his home in Beverly Hills, down on his knees there on the desert floor, devouring the still-beating heart of an iguana while he rips at its flesh with his canine-like teeth.
So it goes.
Gerard K H Love
Appreciate your friends
Welcome Goner. Just go to this link called New Blood and click on the New Topic square and tell us how you got into Bukowski and where you are going. Welcome.
i love the old 30's and 40's and early warner bros. cartoons when animation had some soul
i don't know about anyone else, but i just can't stomach the new wave of computer-animation that's taken over - about as soulful as the plastic toys they sell of the characters...
i don't know about anyone else, but i just can't stomach the new wave of computer-animation that's taken over - about as soulful as the plastic toys they sell of the characters...
pluto
His dog Pluto is alright because he cant' talk. Of course Pluto was the Roman god of the underworld. Quite appropriate that Mickey Mouse should own a dog called that.
His dog Pluto is alright because he cant' talk. Of course Pluto was the Roman god of the underworld. Quite appropriate that Mickey Mouse should own a dog called that.
Black Swan
Abord the Yorikke!
I was afraid of most Disney characters, even Cinderella's prince.
So yeah ,fuck Mickey!
So yeah ,fuck Mickey!
Bukfan
"The law is wrong; I am right"
Yes, fuck Mickey! He's just a boyscout, always doing the right thing. - Now, Donald, he's something else! He's much more human, with all the flaws he has, like a hot temper he can't control. He's not above "borrowing" money from his nephews piggy bank, or trying to fool Uncle Scrooge and Gladstone. He's a guy you can understand, but Mickey? When did he ever do something wrong? I would'nt be surprised to hear he's going to church every morning, saying a prayer for Walt Disney...
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chronic
old and in the way
Took the kids to Disneyland last week and got to meet Mickey in person! He's not the asshole prima-donna that the celebrity rags paint him to be. Really very polite and humble. He's just really stressed-out from the paparazzi chasing him around all the time, trying to catch him in a compromising position with Huey, Dewey and Louie. They're just friends... really!
I got to meet Minnie too. Wanna smell my finger?
I got to meet Minnie too. Wanna smell my finger?
mjp
Founding member
So that's where she was. She told me she was going out to get tacos.
Black Swan
Abord the Yorikke!
Nice toilet training hint!:D
Gerard K H Love
Appreciate your friends
That would only teach a kid to shit down Mickey's throat. Appropriate.
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=3182410024
Probably has budgerigars on the cover...
Probably has budgerigars on the cover...
