shit!.. I should of saved that for the Buk trivia thread, but this is what happens on these boring, 12 degree, snowing like a sumanabitch, mid-winter michigan nights. of course then again I got the info from the "todays events" blurb at the bottom of the forum page. so I guess that the "all knowegable MJP" should get the credit for this fact. and yes, F.L., I think that this is an oxymoron. either that or I am....