Poem for My Daughter - Showcase, 1966

'now she sleeps beautifully like
boats on the Nile'

A simple and effective image!
Bukowski knew the power of the simple...gotta love it!!
 
"If it weren't a responsibiity" is a very interesting line considering the poem about his father ( I don't know if he wrote on when his mother died) and the image about BUK and Jane's son at Janes funeral.
 

cirerita

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great! the good thing about uploading poems here and then seeing them published by Ecco is that we can appreciate the editing, if any...
 

bospress.net

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Hi,
I just compared them and there are many, many changes.....

Of course, given the time since it would have been written, it is entirely possible that Buk edited the poem.

Best,
Bill
 

cirerita

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remember B used to send the poems and then he would forget them. I'm almost sure B did little or no editing at all once he sent the poems to the mags or Martin...
 

cirerita

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Bill,
maybe you'd like to compare "Rimbaud Be Damned" -the version I sent you over- and the one which appears on The People Look Like...
 

bospress.net

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Hi Abel and others,
The poem starts off:

it was in Sante Fe.
we sat up waiting for her.

I see that the first line was not on the ms. Also some other changes. The same feel, but certainly a different version.

Bill
 

Erik

If u don't know the poetry u don't know Bukowski
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"If it weren't a responsibiity" is a very interesting line considering the poem about his father ( I don't know if he wrote on when his mother died) and the image about BUK and Jane's son at Janes funeral.
What poem is that? He has so many about the old brute.
After watching BIT the other day I've been browsing poems in run with the hunted (1993) and came across the poem "my old man" where Buk treats his father with with an impressive, almost forgiving(!), amount of insight. Part of it goes like this:

one evening he walked in
with the pages of
one of my short stories
(which I had never submitted
to him)
and he said, "this is
a great short story."
I said, "o.k.,"
and he handed it to me
and I read it.
it was a story about
a rich man
who had a fight with
his wife and had
gone out into the night
for a cup of coffee
and had observed
the waitress and the spoons
and the forks and the
salt and pepper shakers
and the neon sign
in the window
and then had gone back
to his stable
to see and touch his
favorite horse
who then
kicked him in the head
and killed him.

somehow
the story held
meaning for him
though
when I had written it
I had no idea
of what I was writing about.

so I told him,
"o.k., old man, you can
have it."

and he took it
and walked out
and closed the door.
I guess that's
as close
as we ever got.
A new reader will probably hardly notice this poem, but knowing what his dad put him thru its pretty impressive. Guess it could be called a "bluebird-poem" - and it was written as early as 1977. (This is completely different to Buk's "bitch-slapping" side.) I like the way he lets his father, almost respectfully, close the door when leaving. Nice touch.

Also notice that Buk here describes one of his very early short stories (maybe).
Guess we'll never know the true story behind the anger of Buk's father. Like what did he experience during his war-service? Does anyone remember any other poems like this? (PS: is "o.k." usually written with periods like this?)
 

cirerita

Founding member
Erik,
I used the ending of this poem in my dissertation precisely for the reason you mentioned: it's one of the few -if not the only- poem where B DOESN'T depict his father in harsh terms.
 

mjp

Founding member
After watching BIT the other day I've been browsing poems in run with the hunted (1993) and came across the poem "my old man"
"my old man" originally appeared in Love is a Dog From Hell, for those of you who don't have the Run With the Hunted sampler...
 
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