age is the sum?

My wife recalls hearing an NPR program in which Bukowski said, "age is the sum of all we do." If he actually did say this, can anyone tell us where it is, if it's in a poem or something else that he published, or what interview it is from? If the statement is incorrect, can someone correct it? Thanks very much.


Sad Flower in the Sand
My guess is an interview, but I can't get any more specific than that. Somewhere here's gotta have some of the interview books better memorized than I.


I can't recall the interview, but I know he says something similar (well, basically the same, but in slightly different words) in his poem Be Kind (collected in The Last Night of the Earth Poems):
but age is the total of
our doing.