ArtCrimes Issue #11, April 1991

Discussion in 'Unpublished and Uncollected' started by nado, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. goodbye (very different than the poem with the same name in War All the Time)

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  2. somebody else
    (Not the same as the poem with the same title in Betting on the Muse)

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  3. goodbye. love it. absolutely love it.
     
  4. change over
    (I could not find this one in the database, so I assume it to only occur in this publication. Also it is

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  5. bar
    (Could not find an identical titled poem in the data base)

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  6. That helps me out today - already!
     
  7. There is one more poem in this mag called "upon reading an interview with a bestselling novelist in the metropolitan daily".

    The database says that poem is in Sifting Through the Madness... and in Pleasures of the Damned. I do not own either of those to confirm that it is the same poem, but I cannot imagine 2 different poems with that name, though it may have been edited somewhere along the way.
     
  8. thanks a lot baby.
     
  9. Yeah - it really rings true doesn't it? Especially once you get old enough to have your hair become thinner and grey and that reflection almost startles you and makes the moment melancholy.
     
  10. I would bet this month's paycheck it has been "edited," so if you have a scan, feel free to post it.
     
  11. Erik

    Erik If u don't know the poetry u don't know Bukowski First 9 Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    :D
    And there's that word "mewking" again. We discussed it once before. Found it in Shakespeare if I remember correctly...

    Many thanks!
     
  12. This one is ruined in Slouching Toward Nirvana.
     
  13. Nice, nado!
    Thank you for posting!
     
  14. I couldn't get myself to push the 'Like'-button at this remark, but thanks for the info.
     
  15. OK - Here is "upon reading an interview...."

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  16. Thanks.

    Yes, it is worse for wear in Sifting.
     
  17. Erik

    Erik If u don't know the poetry u don't know Bukowski First 9 Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    What does this phrase mean? (from the first poem):
    Is it some type of slang or a metaphore?
     
  18. It's interesting because it's one of those "fancy" words that Buk throws in sometimes. I wonder if he "knew" this word or looked it up in the dictionary while he was writing? I just looked it up myself and it is an insect which makes stuff you can make dye out of....I suppose he's making fun of people who just follow the crowd like insects....Also, all his work is full of insect imagery: ants, cockroaches, flies, etc. Obviously from living in all those dives, but also because he descends all the way to the bottom of the evolutionary ladder and hangs out with the insects--like Gregor Samsa in "The Metamorphosis" He read and liked Kafka...
     
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  19. I think he used the dictionary quite a lot. There are a few poems and even prose pieces (the Nomad manifesto) where it's clear he was using the dictionary.
    As to "cochineals," they were pretty popular among kids in the Canary Islands 25-30 years ago. You could find them in clusters in the fleashy leafs of some cactii. If you collected a bucketful, they would pay you big money as they were used to produce some sort of natural, expensive dye.
     
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  20. Erik

    Erik If u don't know the poetry u don't know Bukowski First 9 Redwood Original Unholy Ones

    I guess it a reference to the type of people who are "dead in life" that he often refers to - their blood dry in their veins- no juices flowing any more. The following definition would surely have tickled Buk's imagination:
    "Prepared from the dried bodies of females" ...:hmh:
    Still, the word kind of stands out, as the text gives the impression of being written in "one take", so to say, with no time for looking up words in dictionaries...

    Aha! Maybe he was reading Emily Dickinson.
    More here.
     
  21. Thank you for the great stuff, nado.
     
  22. "...it's a gathering hum of nowhere."

    Love that line. Thanks for sharing all of these.
     
  23. 'change over' was collected as 'crazy as a fox'
    in the night torn mad with footsteps.
    not as many edits as usually, maybe except
    at the ending.
     
  24. great stuff...thanks much, nado!
     
  25. I'm glad I decided to check this forum out. Buk was so prolific it's a lifelong task to tackle his canon.
     
  26. Or more.
     
  27. Anybody know if this poem is collected? The Artcrimes version not the same as listing presently on file...
     
  28. I haven't found the word singling in any of the poetry collections I have in PDF format.
    It could be in The Flash of Lightning Behind the Mountain*, Slouching Toward Nirvana, Come On In! or The Continual Condition though.

    *less probably, I'm reading it right now and I'm very near the end of the book
     

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