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Rekrab
Usually wrong.
You read my mind. I was thinking of "The Imp of the Perverse" when I posted that. The original story, not this hallow travesty (actually, I like the art work. It's nicely done and doesn't send my brain into shambles.) Poe would be turning over in his grave if he knew. I have it on good authority that he loathed the graphic novel as an art form.
Black Swan
Abord the Yorikke!
Thank you, David and David, for being sharp.
I found it fascinating that both of you had been thinking of E.A. Poe's story.
Since I couldn't remember reading it, and wanted to figure out what the two of you were referring to, I had to read it.
I had read Poe translated by Beaudelaire, years ago, but had recently picked up a 1966 edition in English, which was sitting in my dirty truck. I admit that I needed my dictionary to get it straight but enjoyed it so much that I laughed to myself. I can see that you wouldn't forget such a thing. I just had to tell.:wb:
I found it fascinating that both of you had been thinking of E.A. Poe's story.
Since I couldn't remember reading it, and wanted to figure out what the two of you were referring to, I had to read it.
I had read Poe translated by Beaudelaire, years ago, but had recently picked up a 1966 edition in English, which was sitting in my dirty truck. I admit that I needed my dictionary to get it straight but enjoyed it so much that I laughed to myself. I can see that you wouldn't forget such a thing. I just had to tell.:wb:
Bukfan
"The law is wrong; I am right"
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Black Swan
Abord the Yorikke!
Ooh, it's bad all right! I have a little of everything in it, mostly empties, a giant garbage bag, a dirty white stuffed cat with a broken neck under the seat, gardening tools, cans of various fluids, a weed wacker and an old Buk Scene. But I do have a good radio set on the Mohawk station. :wb:
i'm gonna re-read it tonite. i remember reading cask of amontillado in grade 3 and it blew me away.
this is the one i've had since a kid. with the great rackham illustrations.
you can see all the pics from the book here
http://www.nocloo.com/gallery2/v/arthur-rackham-mystery-imagination/rackham-poe-mystery07.jpg.html
this is the one i've had since a kid. with the great rackham illustrations.
you can see all the pics from the book here
http://www.nocloo.com/gallery2/v/arthur-rackham-mystery-imagination/rackham-poe-mystery07.jpg.html
Rekrab
Usually wrong.
Okay, don't make me break out my 1882 edition of Poe and put you all to shame. I have something like 5 editions of Poe. You can never have enough Poe.
I want to see some photos of your truck, Black Swan. Especially the strangled white stuffed cat. Good to know you have a safe place for keeping Buk Scene copies.
I want to see some photos of your truck, Black Swan. Especially the strangled white stuffed cat. Good to know you have a safe place for keeping Buk Scene copies.
did you see the antiques roadshow with the lady who found a poe daguerreotype at an antiques store?
turned out to be stolen and she had to give it up.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/fts/omaha_200402A06.html
turned out to be stolen and she had to give it up.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/fts/omaha_200402A06.html
Black Swan
Abord the Yorikke!
She should at least get her money back. That's a problem whenever you buy anything off the street. Once I bought a little greasy bust made of clay for a dollar signed Ravelli at a church bazaar. I had to clean it with a toothbrush to get the slime off the thing. It sold at auction for $1500. That was a lucky strike but I kept thinking of who had donated it.
Rekrab
Usually wrong.
No, I didn't. That sounds like a good one. Too bad she had to given it up. I once had a CDV (Carte de Visite) photo of a woman I thought looked an awful lot like Emily Dickinson, and on the back it had the mark of a photographer from her home town (Amherst?) Turned out it was Emily's cousin.
Bukfan
"The law is wrong; I am right"
Indeed it was! I just read it myself. However, I do have a few complaints. The panels are too small, due to the small size of the book. I wish it had been a bit larger. Also, I don't like that he keeps reusing the same drawings over and over again. He just changes the distance of view (long distance-medium distance-close up), and that's amateurish or just lazy work. Finally, I don't like that the facial expressions are the same neutral expressions all through the book. They never change their blank stare. That said, it was an interesting read. He sure knows how to argue his point of view on prostitution, and it's nice to see comics being used to present and debate some serious social issues.
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Digney in Burnaby
donkeys live a long time
My eyes are pretty poor for small drawings and even smaller type fonts. That was a drawback (heh!) to Chester's memoir/polemic.
from crumb's website - him talking about the book and how small it is...
"Just recently he published a great book, maybe one of his best books. It's called Paying For It. It's great, well worth reading. The only problem with it is the pages are printed so small that you have to read it with a magnifying glass. They sent me an advance copy of the book, just a galley copy, and asked me if I would write something about it, a blurb, and I did. But when I wrote praising the story, I also wrote, "I hope you're not planning on printing this as small as this galley you sent me. It's unreadable! I had to read it with a magnifying glass. Is this the size you're actually going to print this?' The people at his publishers, Drawn and Quarterly, wrote back and said, "Oh we really like what you wrote and we're going to use it as the introduction of the book.' But they did not address my question about the size of the pages. And they printed it that size. It's too bad. It's really a shame they did that. Maybe Chester Brown wanted it that size, I don't know.
i didn't notice that - i'll have to get my magnifying glass out and have a look.
"Just recently he published a great book, maybe one of his best books. It's called Paying For It. It's great, well worth reading. The only problem with it is the pages are printed so small that you have to read it with a magnifying glass. They sent me an advance copy of the book, just a galley copy, and asked me if I would write something about it, a blurb, and I did. But when I wrote praising the story, I also wrote, "I hope you're not planning on printing this as small as this galley you sent me. It's unreadable! I had to read it with a magnifying glass. Is this the size you're actually going to print this?' The people at his publishers, Drawn and Quarterly, wrote back and said, "Oh we really like what you wrote and we're going to use it as the introduction of the book.' But they did not address my question about the size of the pages. And they printed it that size. It's too bad. It's really a shame they did that. Maybe Chester Brown wanted it that size, I don't know.
i didn't notice that - i'll have to get my magnifying glass out and have a look.
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mjp
Founding member
Then you wouldn't like David Lynch's strip that ran in the LA Weekly back in the 80s and 90s...
That was the strip every week. The only thing that changed was the text in the third panel. It always struck me as absurdly hilarious.
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jordan
lothario speedwagon
paying for it was definitely an interesting read, but i don't really like brown's more polemical work. his schizophrenia essay is the same thing. it's clear from his earlier work that he's pretty emotionally closed off, and he owns up to that - i never liked you is so great because he's honest about how he affected the people around him who tried to get close to him, and it's pretty devastating in an understated way. this new one, though... his conviction that he is right is just exhausting when it comes to telling a story. i'm inclined to agree with him (except about his post-romantic utopia in which all sex is an economic transaction), but the way he sets up his friends and patsies who just exist to parrot arguments he finds ineffective is pretty irritating, and he's so wrapped up in showing why he's right that he doesn't really bother to tell a compelling story.
Bukfan
"The law is wrong; I am right"
I don't know the series, but I would probably love it if I found it funny. I would have an issue with the constant repetition of the same drawings, but I would'nt let that stand in my way for getting a good laugh.
"Paying For It" is the first book of Brown's I've read and I think he carried his pro-prositution arguments a bit too far, almost (?) to the point where love was something that wasn't worth getting into (unless it was the non-sexual love you feel for family and friends). To him, paying for sex is the ideal way of having sex, but that does'nt have to be the case for everybody else. Him being an oddball probably explains why he thinks so. Apart from that, I do agree with most, if not all, of the arguments he makes.
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