on an unimportant sidenote: have just reread 'Confessions of a man insane enough to live with beasts' and right at the end of chapt 4 (which deals with the bleeding ulcer) he writes:
"Thirteen days from the night I entered I was driving a truck and lifting packages weighing up to 50 pounds."
But sure, that's only fiction and right in the following sentence he reminds us of that: "A week later I had my first drink"
Thought it was a funny coincidence with the letter though.
And btw.: Today I've reread 'Life and Death in the charity ward' as well and it's interesting to compare, what he took from the one thing into the other and what he made up for the later ('Erections') version.
maybe it sucks to come back to that goddamn truck-driving again (I just stumble upon it while reading things):
in a letter to Corrington from Jan 14, 1963 he writes about the time right after the hospital: "I got on a mail truck and drove it around and delivered letters and drank lightly, experimentally ..."
So, hanko and hooch had it (and I suppose some others too who didn't bother to repeat it). The truck-driving actually was for the PO.
Oh and btw: in his 'Narrative account of career' (no date, guess around 1974 since he mentions the Grant from the National Endowment for the Arts) he writes: "I came out of the hospital and got a job driving a truck."
Like you all, I hope I don't stumble about more of it and we can close this truck-driving-file now.
Could be that he usually told the story as "getting out of the hospital and getting a job driving a truck" because it sounds good. Going from the verge of death (maybe) to truck driver in a few weeks sounds like the story of a badass. And isn't that what he wanted us to believe he was?
I think if we looked for details on any job (other than the P.O.) we might find a lot of contradiction and embellishment, like you're finding here with the "truck driver" gig.
I didn't want to bitch around with that thing anyway, I just happen to stumble over it these days, whithout intention.
But now, I'm off to marry a millionairess, so hopefully, I won't have to read about that damn truck again.
According to the person who once was here claiming she was Barbara's granddaughter the true name was 'Frye' and Barbara only cut that to 'Fry' (maybe because of her short neck, she wanted to have things short *haha*).
Of course this is only valuable information IF this person actually was her granddaughter.
(but I'm over that anyway, since I'm divorced already and my fuckin' father has just died. / *insert a sigh of relief here*)
Agreed. Only, it seems she never 'really' changed it: the marriage certificate says 'Frye' and I bet her death certificate even so. Whatever. (of course I too have never 'officially' changed my name to Roni even though it graces my passport.)
baby, you sure know what I was referring to. Here's a hint: "… he was such a stupid prick […] well, that’s all over and he’s dead dead dead, thank god" ... said who? and which somebody's writing a bit about that who? (so, this was only a short note, about where this somebody is in the process so far.)
I have nothing to add except to say I continues to be flabbergasted as to the level of knowledge and dedication to this site from it's members. I look forward to the day I can say something of profound incite. mjp...how come your sound knob does not go up to 11? what's up with that?
another just minor thing:
Our timeline got it right, while our books-list doesn't:
Even though Krumhansl says 'Longshot Pomes' came out in 1962 (#8) there's evidence that it came out in October 1961, which means before 'Poems and Drawings' (and of course before 'Run with...').
Evidence is Abel's article 'The Early Chapbooks ...' (p.48) and the 'Late-Oct 1961'-letter to Martinelli.
I was reading the long letter to Corrigan (re: writing an intro to the first LouJon book) the other day where he gives what is essentially a one page biography and he talks about driving the truck again after getting out of the hospital...and in the poem my 2nd and 3rd jobs (which isn't in the db yet) he mentions the stock clerk at Sears as his third job...
Which is just to say that pinning this stuff down precisely is difficult. But it would certainly appear that the post-hospital Supreme lighting gig came after driving the truck and his first stint with the P.O.
But Sunbeam lighting is in 1950 and Supreme lighting is in 1955 and I always wondered how many damn lighting fixture places there were in Los Angeles, or whether those two jobs were somehow one in the same. They are so far apart I leave them as separate jobs, but it makes you wonder.
Sunbeam lightning and Supreme lightning even sound the same. Maybe it's a case of Buk not remembering the exact name of the lightning company and the year he worked there. It would be odd if he worked for two different lightning companies five years apart without him never mentioning it.
question just occured to me:
Buk was in New Orleans to write 'Crucifix' for (nearly) a whole month.
How much vacation a year did a postal clerk get at that time? Do we know, how Buk had handled this with his bosses?