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Two greats
Father Luke,
Loved what you had to say about Mort Sahl and Lenny Bruce - two of my favorites. I was just reading today that Sahl wrote jokes for JFK, Ronald Reagan (!) and Ross Perot (!!). I love Lenny's Curran Theater concert, and Mort Saul is still active in his 80s.
Sahl:
"Most people past college age are not atheists. It's too hard to be in society, for one thing. Because you don't get any days off. And if you're an agnostic you don't know whether you get them off or not."
"There are Russian spies here now. And if we're lucky, they'll steal some of our secrets and they'll be two years behind."
Cheers.
Father Luke,
Loved what you had to say about Mort Sahl and Lenny Bruce - two of my favorites. I was just reading today that Sahl wrote jokes for JFK, Ronald Reagan (!) and Ross Perot (!!). I love Lenny's Curran Theater concert, and Mort Saul is still active in his 80s.
Sahl:
"Most people past college age are not atheists. It's too hard to be in society, for one thing. Because you don't get any days off. And if you're an agnostic you don't know whether you get them off or not."
"There are Russian spies here now. And if we're lucky, they'll steal some of our secrets and they'll be two years behind."
Cheers.
Woody Allen credits Mort Saul with his success. He is very open about that.
For all that Woody has done, hasn't done, been accused of, been convicted of,
not been convicted of; for as many times as he has jumped the shark and
gotten back on, Woody knows to give credit where credit is due.
Mort changed comedy. He just did.
For all that Woody has done, hasn't done, been accused of, been convicted of,
not been convicted of; for as many times as he has jumped the shark and
gotten back on, Woody knows to give credit where credit is due.
Mort changed comedy. He just did.
Interesting that no one but Rob. mentioned any female comedians (and only mentioned Janeane Garofalo to say that he doesn't think she's funny anymore) until esart posted her list and got some agreement on Sarah Silverman.
You know, they can drive cars, play rock and roll and even vote now too! It's the damnedest thing!
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Well, as Dr. James Brown said, "This is a man's world!"
You know, they can drive cars, play rock and roll and even vote now too! It's the damnedest thing!
;)
Well, as Dr. James Brown said, "This is a man's world!"
Lotus Weinstock
If you don't know who she was,
you are missing out.
If you don't know who she was,
you are missing out.
poptop
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Mort and Allen
Father Luke... Yes indeed... and there was a ferment in society at the time because of the Kennedy assassination and the general social unrest that was fodder for the razor sharp, acerbic wit of a Mort Sahl and someone like Bruce. (Of the two I preferred Bruce mostly because I was exposed to more of him.)
With Allen, I loved his writing more than his movies. His Getting Even, Side Effects, and Without Feathers are three of the funniest bks I've read - like watching a literary food fight one after another - full of quirky essays and take-offs.. puns, satires, witticisms built upon witticisms - elevated in comic absurdity with his references to such serious and influential people as Ingmar Bergman and famous philosophers like Schopenhauer - very much like reading warm-ups for his movies... but I enjoyed the books more because it was like watching it all happen inside his head and mine.
His personal life? I couldn't have taken that risk. It seemed too over-the-top neurotic in a career built upon the neurotic. But I later came to feel that if a man... any man... was willing to take the heat for falling in love and marrying his own step-daughter - which takes balls and he was crucified in the press and by his ex - I had to ease up on him. He may have felt that he simply had no choice - that it was so compelling it was somehow destined by the gods - and he went for it. If the marriage had failed, that might have been even a greater calamity than falling in love. But they appear happy after so many years, and it's nice for an older guy to be with a younger women. It can add years to a man's life, a prime example being...
Father Luke... Yes indeed... and there was a ferment in society at the time because of the Kennedy assassination and the general social unrest that was fodder for the razor sharp, acerbic wit of a Mort Sahl and someone like Bruce. (Of the two I preferred Bruce mostly because I was exposed to more of him.)
With Allen, I loved his writing more than his movies. His Getting Even, Side Effects, and Without Feathers are three of the funniest bks I've read - like watching a literary food fight one after another - full of quirky essays and take-offs.. puns, satires, witticisms built upon witticisms - elevated in comic absurdity with his references to such serious and influential people as Ingmar Bergman and famous philosophers like Schopenhauer - very much like reading warm-ups for his movies... but I enjoyed the books more because it was like watching it all happen inside his head and mine.
His personal life? I couldn't have taken that risk. It seemed too over-the-top neurotic in a career built upon the neurotic. But I later came to feel that if a man... any man... was willing to take the heat for falling in love and marrying his own step-daughter - which takes balls and he was crucified in the press and by his ex - I had to ease up on him. He may have felt that he simply had no choice - that it was so compelling it was somehow destined by the gods - and he went for it. If the marriage had failed, that might have been even a greater calamity than falling in love. But they appear happy after so many years, and it's nice for an older guy to be with a younger women. It can add years to a man's life, a prime example being...
Yeah, stupid press, giving poor old Woody a hard time for fucking his stepdaughter. What's wrong with the press anyway? Puritans! And Mia Farrow - what business was it of hers?! She should have just kept her harpy trap shut!
Woody Allen was an acceptable movie maker and comedian I suppose (was - his best work is decades old), but as a man? A coward and a colossal piece of shit.
You can't compare a 57 year old man fucking his 21 year old stepdaughter to a 46 year old Bukowski taking up with Linda, who was 32 - and, incidentally, unrelated to Bukowski - when they met.
CarrotTop, I think you are now officially a troll.
with comedy, I think, women speak to women, men speak to men. with a lot of the performing arts, perhaps.
women are generally more open minded because they have to be. society forces that situation. it's male-centric. the '50s aren't much different from the 2000s, apart from the fact that sexism and racism, etc. are hidden now. they're not gone, just hidden. they should be gone, but...
I was raised by a single mother who was very strong, but male artists speak stonger to me.
my fault? sure.
my mother loved Dionne Warwick. I love Dionne Warwick when she sings Burt Bacharach songs.
but back to comedy, why do guys only like female comics when they think they're "hot"?
Sarah Silverman, Tina Fey....no one has mentioned Roseanne Barr, who was very funny.
and how 'bout the government? what's up with that?
ah, never mind me. I'm going to go post in the "are you an alcoholic?" thread now.
women are generally more open minded because they have to be. society forces that situation. it's male-centric. the '50s aren't much different from the 2000s, apart from the fact that sexism and racism, etc. are hidden now. they're not gone, just hidden. they should be gone, but...
I was raised by a single mother who was very strong, but male artists speak stonger to me.
my fault? sure.
my mother loved Dionne Warwick. I love Dionne Warwick when she sings Burt Bacharach songs.
but back to comedy, why do guys only like female comics when they think they're "hot"?
Sarah Silverman, Tina Fey....no one has mentioned Roseanne Barr, who was very funny.
and how 'bout the government? what's up with that?
ah, never mind me. I'm going to go post in the "are you an alcoholic?" thread now.
Yes, I have an endless supply!
Favorite Stand-Up Comedians
(not counting movies):
Richard Pryor
Dennis Miller
George Carlin
Sam Kinison
Lewis Black
plus 1980's comics
Richard Jeni
Drake Sather
Rick Reynolds
Margaret Smith
Rita Rudner
not that these comics were confined
to the 1980's but categories are easier !
(not counting movies):
Richard Pryor
Dennis Miller
George Carlin
Sam Kinison
Lewis Black
plus 1980's comics
Richard Jeni
Drake Sather
Rick Reynolds
Margaret Smith
Rita Rudner
not that these comics were confined
to the 1980's but categories are easier !
Gilda Radner - R.I.P.
Cheech and Chong
Cheech and Chong
Gilda blazed a trail. I love her. I'm an ass for forgetting her.
And Roseanne Barr is a total genius too.
Bill Cosby is classic. I have "Himself" practically memorized.
Jeez. I don't check this in a long time and there's like 40 something posts... :D Well, the sk8 boarder Mark Gonzales, sticks to skateboarding and is NOT my brother. He's another Mark Gonzales. Check out his website: www.thefakemarkgonzales.com or you can check his Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/thefakemarkgonzales
If anyone calls Margaret Cho and Sarah Silverman funny I WILL slap you. LMAO I saw Margaret Cho and was sOOOOO disappointed. Like, OMG. Sarah Silverman ONLY has her "f'n matt damon" bit... and that's pretty much it. Even her roast jokes are whatev. I'm sorry, but i've yet to see a "funny" woman comedian... just don't see a good one.
The only time i did see a really funny woman comedian is Rita Rudner, but she's classic - 80's comedian. She's the only one that makes me laugh throughout her set... I just wish she wasn't so clean with her jokes. lol
If you know ANY other dirty woman comedians, hit me uuuuup. :D
If you guys like dirty jokes and think outside the box, look up DOUG STANHOPE.
I love him.
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If anyone calls Margaret Cho and Sarah Silverman funny I WILL slap you. LMAO I saw Margaret Cho and was sOOOOO disappointed. Like, OMG. Sarah Silverman ONLY has her "f'n matt damon" bit... and that's pretty much it. Even her roast jokes are whatev. I'm sorry, but i've yet to see a "funny" woman comedian... just don't see a good one.
The only time i did see a really funny woman comedian is Rita Rudner, but she's classic - 80's comedian. She's the only one that makes me laugh throughout her set... I just wish she wasn't so clean with her jokes. lol
If you know ANY other dirty woman comedians, hit me uuuuup. :D
If you guys like dirty jokes and think outside the box, look up DOUG STANHOPE.
I love him.
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Mel Brooks.
I think Mel Brooks is GOD. :) He makes the gratest movies EVER. What are your fav's?
I love em all, but if I HAD to make a decision i'd say:
1. Young Frankenstein
2. Blazing Saddles
3. Spaceballs
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I think Mel Brooks is GOD. :) He makes the gratest movies EVER. What are your fav's?
I love em all, but if I HAD to make a decision i'd say:
1. Young Frankenstein
2. Blazing Saddles
3. Spaceballs
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3. Silent Movie
He is not a (GOD) please we love him but no God. You have to give him credit for the great casts in his movies. Gene Wilder, Cloris Leachman, Peter Boyle and Gene Hackman. To name a few. Marty Feldman.:D
O_o
He's real, is an inspiration, and i've read his original scrips. He's a god in my eyes. :)
Wow... didn't think anyone would get mad at the word "god."
Anywho, who likes metal?
Mayhem Festival in Cali tomorrow!! Anyone going? :rolleyes:
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Oh, I'm not mad and I recognize your freedom of religion, I like his movies very much. I just can't see God in his movies. You have to give him credit for putting the right actors together and getting the best out of them.
We could make him a Saint. Okay.
you're pretty annoying, i have to say. i think sarah silverman is funny- her movie made me laugh pretty consistently. i may check out doug stanhope, because i'm curious whether the asshole from the man show II and a girls gone wild video they used to advertise on comedy central is actually funny or not. i had always written him off, but maybe i'm just being prejudicial.
other funny female comedians include:
jen kirkman
tig notaro
morgan murphy
i don't know if they'll be "dirty" enough for you. you seem to have a pretty high threshold if sarah silverman's bits about licking jelly off of her boyfriend's penis, finding semen in her dead grandmother's vagina, or getting bittersweetly raped by a doctor don't do anything for you.
Has my vote.
Hm.
George Carlin, Doug Stanhope, Mitch Fatel, Mitch Hedberg, David Cross, Brian Regan, Louis CK, and Dave Attell are favorites... Though there's a lot of good stuff on the XM stations and I don't know many of those names... Oh and Richard Jeni. Learned to love him after he offed himself. Real shame there.
I'm trying to get into older stuff, but... a lot of it doesn't really register with my ADD brain. Probably why I like Dane Cook.
George Carlin, Doug Stanhope, Mitch Fatel, Mitch Hedberg, David Cross, Brian Regan, Louis CK, and Dave Attell are favorites... Though there's a lot of good stuff on the XM stations and I don't know many of those names... Oh and Richard Jeni. Learned to love him after he offed himself. Real shame there.
I'm trying to get into older stuff, but... a lot of it doesn't really register with my ADD brain. Probably why I like Dane Cook.
Dane Cook and Carlos "Ned" Mencia are a little too liberal with their lifting of other comedians material. That's not funny.
good on Joe Rogan for calling Mencia out.
WOW. Alrighty then. That's ur opinion. You like Sarah, I don't. Life goes on. I hope you do look up on Stanhope... and not hear what others say about him...
Anyways...
Eddie Izzard is awesome. You can't hear his work, you need to see him perfom... It's definitely not the same. Dress to Kill is probably the best, I think. His gestures are hillarious. :)
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PS.
I was at The Comedy Store when Rogan called Menstealia out. That was hillarious. I was hoping for a riot, but it was better. There was so much drama... and Ned seemed really scared... cause a LOT of comedians kept telling him a lot of shit and ended up yelling on his way out the door. I lost respect for him after that day.
Sort of contradictory, no?