Rapper called Slug [from Atmosphere] (1 Viewer)

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I found it online and I still say that these are just awful poems... I have not heard the song, so it may be good, but reading the lyrics as a poem was fucking torture.

Bill
 
How often are going to have this discussion? Good poetry makes for horrible lyrics, and good lyrics make horrible poetry. It's lychees and brake shoes.

Some time back, to make my point, I actually threw John Lennon under the bus because I claimed that the lyrics to Imagine make for an absolutely god-awful poem. And they do. I consider Lennon to be one of the best song writers I know of, and yet I stand by it.

Fantastic lyrics; see also Strawberry Fields, Julia, In My Life, Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except for Me and My Monkey, All You Need is Love...all great tunes with great lyrics that fall completely flat upon recitation.

Now try Dylan; oft-considered to be one of the most "poetic" of lyricists. Try reading Visions of Johanna, A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall, Desolation Row out loud, or even to yourself. It's almost laughable in some cases. I mean "I saw a young girl, she gave me a rainbow." Or "Einstein disguised as Robin Hood, with his memories in a trunk, passed this way an hour ago with his friend, a jeleous monk." Seriously, would any of you ever have the nerve to read that to a room full of people at a poetry reading?

But Dylan can pull it off in a song because, well, he's a song and dance man. That, and because his voice and chordal phrasing can paint an image that mere words cannot. Poetry is words and nothing else. They need to be strong enough to stand on their own merit with no crutch.

So let's not even bring rap into this. I'll have to go find my rusty grapefruit spoon.
 

d gray

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does anyone have an opinion on leonard cohen re the lyrics vs poetry debate? he was a legitimate poet before putting words to music but is he in the same group as dylan, lennon et al as far as 'song lyrics' can't stand on their own?
 

hoochmonkey9

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it's been said before, but I think you are doing a disservice to lyrics if you take them out of the context of the music. they are meant to go together and good lyricists take a lot of time and effort to make them go together well.

good rap lyrics generally look silly when written out because you are losing the diction, tone and rhythm that is intended by the rapper. much like Dylan lyrics.

there's no need to force poetry to be lyrics and lyrics to be poetry. both are valid on their own.
 

d gray

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very true. i only mentioned leonard cohen cause he was an established poet before putting words to music. but i would guess when he writes words for songs his approach is different than writing pure poetry like you said: he has to consider how they flow with the tune.
 

hoochmonkey9

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d gray, my comment wasn't directed at you. friendly fire incident. ;)

and yes, I think poets who are also songwriters approach the two differently.
 
If I can chime in here real quick...didnt Buk detest rhyming poetry and the basis of hip hop is rhyme and beats me personally as a polish-german from Minneapolis highly doubt that Buk had much rythym either... just throwin it out there
 

mjp

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Next time don't chime in "real quick," because it looks like when you do that you just type run-on sentences and gibberish. You're going to give Polacks a bad name with behavior like that.
 

mjp

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I know, and believe me, I cry myself to sleep every night because of that knowledge. It is really fucking up my life. All I ever wanted was for Buke to love me. Now it's too late.
 

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Buke hates that you don't like rap and that you like his books and that you use a computer. Buke lived on a park bench his whole life and hated anyone that had anything.

Most people don't know that Buke liked to be called MC Buke in the later years. He took to wearing his pants low and got a tattoo of Biggie Smalls on his neck.

He was fly like that.
Bill

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p.s. Even he is surprised by this information...
 

hank solo

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No, it doesn't. Sadly it says I'm Not Okay!!!

You can't buy publicity like this... (if you are reading this Mr Slug, please send $$$$ ...)
 
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this is an atmosphere song, pay attention to the lyrics.. maybe it's just me but doesn't he sound like bukowski?
 

d gray

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hey dickhead why don't you go find a hiphop forum where someone might give a shit?
seriously man, fuck off with that garbage.
 

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