Same thing over here. The politicians in Copenhagen including the mayor wants to set up "Coffee shops" on an experimental basis but our right-wing Government won't let them do it.It doesn't matter what laws are passed in California, the federal drug laws will always trump our little laws...
Right! It's so ridiculous and certainly overkill when you see the "storm troopers" use their bashing tool to get through the door of some low level pot dealer's home. They don't even wait for the guy to open the door (what a disappointment that would be!). They could just bring a locksmith along instead but I guess that's not as exciting as getting to use the door bashing tool (and the bulletproof vests, the helmets and what not).All "drug laws" are a ridiculous waste of money and everyone sitting in the government knows that. All they do is give cops with Rambo complexes something to do on Saturday nights. They get to play Serpico and use that big door bashing tool.
Right, but we don't forbid alcohol just because some people can't handle it, do we?some bodies just cannot handle the stuff, pot, alcohol, crack, H, Mo Jo, bennies, etc,etc,etc.
Probably! Private prisons rented out to the States are big business. I watched an English documentary on TV about it where they said it was the most profitable business on the stock exchange.I guess the big business of prisons beats it out?
To use the well-trodden terms of the debate though I'd say the people you are on about are, if you like, the true casualties of the 'War on Drugs' and while legalisation of all drugs wouldn't be perfect it would perhaps allow addicts to get on with relatively 'normal' lives. For one thing the pursuit of their habit wouldn't have to be what amounts to a full-time occupation.Drugs -?
But you do know.I just don't know.
I agree and I'm not naive enough to think people can take drugs and there will be no consequences. I just think that, in general, the law quite possibly makes it worse for those people. It's criminalising people unnecessarily. That's just my view and I know people make their own decisions and not everyone is some innocent victim.pigmantoo said:Bruno, as usual you make some good arguements. All I am saying is that some of that stuff out there really, and I mean really f**k up your mind, sometimes for good. I have seen people that maybe have a memory span of 10 to 15 seconds, thats all. They can't even talk but a few words. Maybe thats why I like zombie books, as these people are about as close to zombies as you can get, and they get pregant have kids, rob, kill, etc.etc.etc.
Anway, as I say - I just don't know anymore, but sometimes it makes me cry, a life down the toilet.
Having worked for the DOC (last time I'll mention this) all I can say is amen. Sad thing is it comes down to a numbers crunch. Prisons have a finite number of beds. They'll release Petey the Perv (who fucked your neighbor's 12 year old daughter) to accommodate Mr. Caught-with-40-plants-in-his-basement-pot-grower type felon. It's a sad, sick world if you pay too close attention to it. Buk knew the score, caught him at the right time. Bless me more or bless him more for the catch. I don't personally smoke weed but vote for legality if nothing more than to keep the proper types locked up. As Americans, VOTE you take-it-for-granted cock-suckers. Thanks.All "drug laws" are a ridiculous waste of money and everyone sitting in the government knows that.
they'll standardize the vegetables, regulate the caloric content, dry freeze the items, pulverize and encapsulate them in gelatin-free capsules, tell you it's wheat and gluten free, bottle it pretty with a label that says natural, and we'll pay 13.00 for 90 grams. Easy does it. All this, FDA approved.My signature is among the 700,000 and it is going to be tough to get it to pass. The pharmaceutical giants need to make money. There are people who believe asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower and a few other common vegetables have properties that cure cancer but how can you charge $1500. a dose for that?
It's all about the money.
But they do, by fuck, they do.the whorey old rhetoric that certain people should be protected from themselves.
You can't "protect" people from themselves.We have hardcore gun control here and our death rate from shootings is less than 10 a year. In the U.S. it's thousands per year.
But let's face it; the vast majority of this deranged herd we call humanity needs some form of protection from itself.
But we have drug laws, thousands of them, and people steal and whore and everything else to get their drugs. So what would change?I've never thought that drug laws were created so much to protect people from 'themselves' as much as they were to protect the rest general public from the things the addicts might do while they're on / trying to get drugs.
Yes, a percentage of the populations does already. But you don't think there would be more people taking heroin for a test drive if it were sitting on the shelf next to the Coors Light?But we have drug laws, thousands of them, and people steal and whore and everything else to get their drugs. So what would change?