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Gerard K H Love

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But kids will be kids, in the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd centuries and beyond.

And greeks will be greeks and neo evangelists will be neo evangelists and rapists will be rapists...

The point is was or should have been to multi task an experience is to miss out. Something is sacrificed and to me that sacrifice especially staring at a puny screen while others are dancing and surfing above a mosh pit ain't worth it. The guy surfing may have a better argument to make, he would still lose, but his argument would be better.

We hold concerts and theatre productions at the blind school (where I work) all the time.
I didn't want to omit the rest of this post, because it is brilliant. I did highlight the last sentence because it lends some serious credibility to where Jimmy Snerp is coming from and that is truly above and beyond most of the people who don't get his point. It's funny when people get passionate about something they misunderstood. I know I do it all of the time too.
 

Mark73

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Yeah I feel the same way when I watch that moon landing-almost like being there.
Oh my, it's not at all like being there... no need to explain that. But to me it's better than witnessing nothing. Were you where the news happened? Or living with the Inca? One is experience and the other is information. Maybe I'll go visit an ancient place of worship one day because I was informed by books, magazines, fotos and films leading me to make that experience. Same thing can happen to you when you discover a band because somebody shows you a video he/she took from that band's gig. You're like Wow I got to see them live.
Don't tell me you know every underground band already. Technology has opened every door for sharing ( and hiding ) information on all thinkable topics and can be used properly. It's up to us.
 

Mark73

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I take your advice, chronic. I typed my opinions and it's 00:30 am here.
Let's see, I have some haldol, paroxat, risperdal and rohhypnol. That should give a kick ass movie theatre in my head projected by my pineal gland.
Good night. :)
 

ROC

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I'm reminded of Ruskin...

"The greatest thing a human soul ever does in this world is to see something and tell what it saw in a plain way. Hundreds of people can talk for one who can think, but thousands can think for one who can see. To see clearly is poetry, prophecy and religion, all in one."

...and one does not see clearly through a mobile phone camera. The essence is altered, filtered... essentially lost.
What's left is a poor recording of what others experienced. And not even that.
 

Bruno Dante

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:rolleyes: Recording part of a concert, or anything that you wish to recall later, does not make you a moron. Going to an event to ridicule those who do is far more moronic.
I thought the wink at the end would indicate my comment was tongue-in-cheek. I was joking but it's not something I would do personally because I think you're in danger of missing the experience in order to remember it. Same goes for people who record hours and hours of footage of their holidays and so on. Obviously it's nice to have a memento. What I was really getting at though is that you have to accept people get different things out of being there so you should just accept it and not worry about it too much. Just have fun in your own way, like they are. It's not like either of you are harming each other, is it?
 

james

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not harming, but yes, it is pretty annoying to have people around you with their cell phones out, holding them up and looking through them. it is to me anyway. same as in a school setting, with people plinking away on their laptops and texting under their desks when i'm trying to pay attention to the prof....

damn kids and their technology! ;)

but, i'm annoyed by most everyone as soon as i leave my house anyway...
 

Bruno Dante

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[No need to quote the post right above yours]

The world would be boring without annoying people though, wouldn't it?
 

scribbler

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People have hugged me, slapped me on the back, in the face, pissed me off and kicked my ass too...but I haven't run into the annoyers. Maybe I just ignore them.
 

homeless mind

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This thread actually fascinates me. How old and new collide.

Some people resist a sea change; others embrace.

I'm sure people were pissed off at Dead concerts when the balloons went up with the mics, and guys managed them, instead of dancing with tambourines.

If the person who films (videos, etc.), is doing no harm, and doesn't block your view, who really cares?

And why is it any of our biz?

The kids are allright.

Pax
 

Short Bus

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This thread actually fascinates me. How old and new collide.

Some people resist a sea change; others embrace.

I'm sure people were pissed off at Dead concerts when the balloons went up with the mics, and guys managed them, instead of dancing with tambourines.

If the person who films (videos, etc.), is doing no harm, and doesn't block your view, who really cares?

And why is it any of our biz?

The kids are allright.

Since I started this... I care. Not all AHA moments are pleasant some are WTF moments. . And here in the all things not Bukowski thread is where I chose to care. Fuck man if we take your attitude why write about anything at all.
But you have to realize (or don't) that it's an odd thing to see someone with their eye attached to a 2 1/2 inch monitor during a wild frenetic party-it wasn't high tech recording equipment or a tambourine is was a phone-and it wasn't for a quick momento it was for the whole damn thing-that doesn't strike you as odd-worthy of comment or discussion. I said he was a kid cause he was if it was a 40 or 50 or 60 something jack ass I would have said so-but it wasn't. The point is and was always that it wasn't about the recording it was about missing out by (the myth of) multi tasking. Doing both attending the concert and watching the concert through that lense-he did neither well. The same way the guy at the Stones concert I went to (Some Girls tour) puked and had to be carried out before Stones went on stage. He did get to see Molly Hatchet though so it wasn't a total loss.
 

james

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so you could say that that guy was...flirting with disaster??? ha cha cha cha...

sorry couldn't help it
 

homeless mind

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Since I started this... I care. Not all AHA moments are pleasant some are WTF moments. . And here in the all things not Bukowski thread is where I chose to care. Fuck man if we take your attitude why write about anything at all.
Your rhetorical question has a simple answer. Videoing an event is much different than writing about said event. Writing enables the writer to attempt to engage the reader from the writer's perspective, attempting to possibly sway and formulate an opinion. Video, in the sense you described it, is merely documenting it. There is a big difference. Yes? No?

But you have to realize (or don't) that it's an odd thing to see someone with their eye attached to a 2 1/2 inch monitor during a wild frenetic party-it wasn't high tech recording equipment or a tambourine is was a phone-and it wasn't for a quick momento it was for the whole damn thing-that doesn't strike you as odd-worthy of comment or discussion.
Yes and no. I wouldn't do it. However, I couldn't give a rat's ass if it didn't obstruct my view. I'd probably tell people about it, as it strikes me as odd - the entire show being watched throw 2 1/2 inches. I would think the person would just hold up the device, and watch the show with his or her own baby blues...

I said he was a kid cause he was if it was a 40 or 50 or 60 something jack ass I would have said so-but it wasn't. The point is and was always that it wasn't about the recording it was about missing out by (the myth of) multi tasking. Doing both attending the concert and watching the concert through that lense-he did neither well. The same way the guy at the Stones concert I went to (Some Girls tour) puked and had to be carried out before Stones went on stage. He did get to see Molly Hatchet though so it wasn't a total loss.
Molly Hatchet has some great artwork on the covers of their albums. I believe it's done by Frank Frazetta. He is crazy fucking cool. And better than puke at a Stones' concert, for sure. And the guy who puked? Well, as they say, that's rock n roll, baby.

And as for the Some Girls tour, I can't refund your tickets. ;)
 

chronic

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The same way the guy at the Stones concert I went to (Some Girls tour) puked and had to be carried out before Stones went on stage.
Ha!

Reminds me of going to see Led Zeppelin at the LA Forum with some friends. A girl sitting behind one of my friends puked right down the back of his neck. He toughed it out, albeit uncomfortably, through the rest of the show.

Another time it reminds me of was going to see FEAR at a local club. One of the people I was with was drunk and smoked-up and tired from working all day before we got there and promptly found a spot against a support post and fell asleep before the show started. At the end of the (very loud) show when people were applauding he jumped up, acting all excited. It took a while to convince him that the show was over and that he had slept straight through it. He refused to believe us until he saw everyone leaving.
 

homeless mind

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So who's more annoying?

1. The guy who pukes on you or near you (on your friend)
2. The bud/drunk who misses the concert who you have to prop up (take care of)
3. The techno-geek with the I-Phone (he doesn't drink - yet, lol)

hmmm.
 

mjp

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This thread actually fascinates me. How old and new collide.
Why do you sign every post with a pretentious Latin version of "peace" when peace is usually the last thing on your mind? It's like saying, "Your mother sucks cocks in hell! lol! :)"

Latin. Really? What are you, the fucking pope? Or are you fucking the pope? Get the pope's dick out of your mouth for a minute, maybe you'll be able to form a rational thought.

Wait, that wasn't my point at all. Here:

There's nothing old and new "colliding" when a submoronic twat prefers to tape something rather than experience it. Doesn't matter if it's your dickhead neighbor taping some excruciating junior high school play his one-eyed, buck toothed daughter is in, or the 20 year old shit for brains recording a shit band on his shit iPhone.

Jesus christ, you'd have to be as dumb and inbred as a hockey arena full of Oxycontined-up Republicans not to get the fucking point.

That goes for all of you, you here me?!

Now get off my lawn!


Chronic, it's too bad that girl puking on your friend wasn't video taped. We could sell it to Japanese perverts for 8,000,000 yen. Instead all we have are 500,000 grainy god damn cell phone recordings of Radiohead banging on pieces of metal and meowing like cats. Isn't that great! Isn't that great for the FUTURE!
 

ROC

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lol.

no, really, laughed out fucking loud!


And here's the the rest of us trying to be all measured and polite!

Well just to jump on the bandwagon (of one) and lay my cards on the table (and whatever else stupid clichés you like) - homeless mind - you really are a dickhead.

You're the embarrassing fuckwit that turns up to a party. You weren't invited, you talk shit and bore people with your inane chatter but no one says anything because they don't want things to get uncomfortable... or worse, downright ugly.

Well, it's the internet and I got to the party before you so I don't care any more. You, scribbler, post toxic and the knuckle head recording the concert on an iphone - dickheads!

Pax that!
 
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hoochmonkey9

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hold on...could you guys do that again? I forgot to press record....

EDIT: DID YOU JUST DISS RADIOHEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?!?!?!

heh.
 

scribbler

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Oh Roc, you're just saying all that to impress mjp.
But I will say there has been some good potty-mouth on this site of late. Would our hero Buk be proud.
 

mjp

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Oh Roc, you're just saying all that to impress mjp.
Because no one could possibly believe you are a pompous bag o' crap, right? Don't kid yourself, I SCRIBBLER. Most people here believe that. But these are kind and friendly people who don't start fistfights at the neighbor's dinner parties. I'm still working on that. But in the meantime, every time I see I SCRIBBLER or HOMELESS anything I have to brace myself for pretense and idiocy, and it's become tedious.

If it takes a game of Whack-A-Mole to get you two douchebags to finally understand that, after the many subtle (and not so subtle) hints that have been dropped, that works for me.
 

scribbler

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Fistfights?, I'll have you know I'm an academic...and we eggheads dont settle matters that way. We exert ourselves the same way you do...some more typed words. Ass whoopings hurt and blood comes out. No thanks, I'll defend my ideals and my honor just like you. type, type click. see, no one really gets hurt.

we all have real lives where we do other things...but that needs only have a small presence here. Right.

Now c'mon. Back to arguing about rock and roll.
 

Gerard K H Love

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I guess you are getting it out there, exposing the raw nerves, and telling us how you really feel.

I think he might have meant "Buckethead".
 
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