Why the Beatles?

mjp

Founding member
Yeah, that's what I said. Average musician. It must be written somewhere in this thread...
 

Gerard K H Love

Appreciate your friends
So, let me get this straight...Ringo is a virtuoso, and Paul is an average musician...got it.

That shouldn't affect their superstar greatness one iota. You only need to be appealing to the masses. There have been great people who were just too over our heads.
 
Yeah, that's what I said. Average musician. It must be written somewhere in this thread...

My apologies...your average musician statement was regarding John. I got my panties in a bunch over nothing. I agree, John was an average musician, but still better than Ringo.
 

nervas

more crickets than friends
I always thought was Paul's own admission that he was pure cheese. I must admit, I love Sir Paul Mccartney's cheese, but have always been a bigger fan of Lennon's solo work. But as Purple mentioned above, adding Paul's cornball and John's darker side always seemed to make the perfect mix to me.

I am looking forward to a night of two buck chuck wine(from Trader Joe's) and Paul's cheese when he plays the Hollywood Bowl on the 30th and 31st of March, if I can score a couple of $50.00 tickets.
 

mjp

Founding member
I wonder why the record companies ignore YouTube and prefer to prosecute the kid down the street who shared a few dozen MP3s? All of the songs they are dragging these people into court over are on YouTube.

When the RIAA comes for me (first they came for the communists, and I did not speak out...) that's going to be my defense.
 

LickTheStar

Sad Flower in the Sand
I remember reading somewhere (probably Wikipedia or some similar site) that Lennon hated that Paul did the vocals for Oh, Darling, and thought that he could have done a better job of it...

I'd love to have heard his version...
 
Well, then Lennon should have written it.

And I wouldn't think that George could really hold a candle to McCartney strictly as a musician. Certainly Harrison was a tasteful guitar player and a decent songwriter. To paraphrase Lennon, Harrison wasn't even the best guitarist in the Beatles.
 

hoochmonkey9

Art should be its own hammer.
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Founding member
when I want to see how different Lennon and McCartney were/are I only have to look at Lennon's song "Mother" from Plastic Ono Band. on the fade out, Lennon is screaming the word 'mother'. absolute vocal chord blow-out screaming. McCartney would never, ever do that. sometimes you have to forget that people are paying attention to you and lay shit out. McCartney always seems aware that someone is watching.

don't get me wrong, I'm not choosing sides and think that each had their own brilliance and when they were at their peak they brought the best out of each other.

and even though I prefer Lennon, screaming for screaming's sake can get indulgent if left unchecked.
 

chronic

old and in the way
John was the smart one.
Paul was the cute one.
George was the quiet one.
Ringo was the funny one.

That settles it... there is no more than that.

I think you can safely lock this thread now.

Or not.
 

chronic

old and in the way
No, Pete was the bitter one and Brian Epstein was the gay one.

George Martin was the engineery one.
 

d gray

tried to do his best but could not
Founding member
John Lennon's Jukebox

In 1989, John Lennon's jukebox surfaced in an auction of Beatles memorabilia at Christie's, and was sold for £2,500 ($4,907) to Bristol-based music promoter John Midwinter. Lennon had apparently bought the jukebox - specifically a Swiss KB Discomatic - in 1965, and filled it with forty singles to take with him on tour. Midwinter spent several years restoring the box and researching the discs catalogued in Lennon's spidery handwriting. When Midwinter developed cancer, and his health began to deteriorate, his desire to see the player featured in some kind of documentary became all the more important

i've seen bits of it - here's the whole thing -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7532896021332831792#
 
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number6horse

okyoutwopixiesoutyougo
A few examples of McCartney avoiding both The Tin Pan Alley effect and the "look-at-me-I-can-rock-out-like-John-too" syndrome :

I'm Looking Through You
Eleanor Rigby
Fixing A Hole
Blackbird
Martha My Dear

EDIT: On second thought, the B section of "Fixing A Hole" has sort of a Tin Pan quality to it.
 

nervas

more crickets than friends
I wonder why the record companies ignore YouTube and prefer to prosecute the kid down the street who shared a few dozen MP3s? All of the songs they are dragging these people into court over are on YouTube.

When the RIAA comes for me (first they came for the communists, and I did not speak out...) that's going to be my defense.

I thought I read somewhere that when users upload copyrighted material(like someone making their own video for, lets say a Beatles song) youtube restricts, or shuts down the users account?

But their certainly are a million songs on youtube being used without the artists consent, so who knows.
 

d gray

tried to do his best but could not
Founding member
i've been playing lots of different music for my 2 1/2 year old son since
he was born and he's hooked on the fabs.

we were watching a clip of them doing twist and shout and he said about
john lennon "he sings very angry" - "how come he sings so angry?"

great interview clip of lennon after his second book came out.

[This video is unavailable.]
 

Ponder

"So fuck Doubleday Doran"
RIP
I have no idea this has been posted before but I'm watching the documentary "The Beatles in the Studio" at this very moment and- it is amusing.
Not so bad so far.

45 minutes later: after all it was nothing much.
 
Mixed feelings about this:


Something about everyone (myself included) having a go with the Beatles songbook - many times I've either asked or been asked to do something live, and the end response was always "no."

But these guys deliver the goods. It ain't the Beatles, but they capture some of their spirit and I have to say, the whole thing gets to me.

8/10 - only because, well, only because.
 
Time to resurrect this thread just like Jesus. Has it been three days already?

A few photos you all probably have not seen:

Beatle Bone.jpg John Parrot and Paul.jpg
Lennonandhis45s.jpg

I'm sure that's a Marlboro Paul is bogarting.
 

nervas

more crickets than friends
That photo of Lennon and his 45's is awesome. I wish I had that in a huge print framed on my wall. Nice, thanks Purple.
 
A few more:

The sheepdog Paul is holding is Martha, as in Martha My Dear.

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Martha.jpg



Very Early 2.jpg



A George looks about 12 in that early shot from '61 or so. It looks like Paul is still playing guitar, althought that must be a bass, as I doubt they'd play with three guitars and no bass. Pre-'61 Hofner apparently.
 
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