Nick Cave

roni

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#31
[...] you shouldn't go chasing Rimbauds [rainbows...]
nice joke. Would never work on a Frenchman I guess, but still nice.
(I remember somewhen in the 90s I been telling a friend (excited voice): "hey tonight, there's a documentary on Rimbaud on TV!" - and he: "what the hell do you want to watch something about Rambo for?!?" - so much for wordplay.)

I think, concerning the context - and please correct me whatsay - he was basically saying:

"Nick Cave, like Rimbaud, likes to come up with provoking statements, but still he is a sweetheart."
- right?
 

Ambreen

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#32
Ok, I now understand ; his sentence expressed nothing else than a physical consideration...well :D

I have just found again an article cut from a french newspaper and dating back to april 2008, which announced three good news :
1) Grinderman's second album will probably release this year.
2) Nick Cave has begun writing a second novel.
3) For the 20th anniversary of his first novel (And the ass saw the angel), he will read some passages, add some music on it and make a record of all this (it is said to be five discs lasting one hour each).

I've just read an article about one of his sons, Jethro (the name is a tribute to the band Jethro Tull), the result of a brief love affair between Nick Cave and an Australian model in 1991. Jethro is a model but he claims having a punk state of mind and modelling only for money (that he wants to use to concretise his musical projects). He is said to have a myspace with some music in it but I don't happen to find it.
http://www.independenttalent.com/models/directory/jethro_cave

The song in which Nick Cave calls Hank a jerk can be listened on his own myspace. It's the last of the list and the sentence can be heard at 4min 10sec.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=212434537
 
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Gerard K H Love

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#33
Jethro looks like his dad. You know after reading Bukowski's bio there are some people, like Ruth Wantling, who would agree with that line at 4:10 in the song. Or maybe the guy whose face was spit on would have thought that for a bit.

Nice links Ambreen, thank you.
 

roni

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#35
after Jordan has brought my attention to the publisher 'Gestalten', I've seen this book on their website:







looks interesting.
 

Ambreen

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#38
Some fresh news:

Grinderman's new album, soberly untitled Grinderman 2, will release in September. A tour will follow it that will include Paris (which was not the case during their first tour) in November; I'm so happy and am going to buy my ticket tomorrow to be sure not to miss Nick! :D
 
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roni

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#40
Okay, I know I've posted this question before (somewhere) - years ago. Maybe this time, someone can help:

I'm looking for a special song of him, that I've seen on TV a long time ago. It's LIVE at the WERCHTER FESTIVAL (don't know the year). The song is a version of 500-MILES. It's heartbreaking how the Bad Seeds perform it.
I definitly NEED that song!

So, if anybody has it - or a hint where I should look for it: Please tell me!

p.s.:
It's NOT the version they once played in the studio of a radio-station. I have that one and it's not nearly as good.

p.p.s.:
THIS is the version I'm looking for, but of course without the talk over the song.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YoGRiITIUQ
 

roni

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#42
Telling from his shirt this should be the right one. Oh baby, thanks! Now I know which one it is. Unfortunately, none of the 3 links on that site work for me. At least I know, what I'm looking for now.

edit:
Yeah, THAT's the one! (You can stream it on the site you've given first.)

edit 2:
It looks like the download is working now. Let's see what comes up after it's finished.
 
#48
I don't like Nick Cave...the affectation in everything about him (his looks, voice, lyrics) is overwhelming for me and diminishes my enjoyment of the music. It just feels like I'm listening to some sort of method actor.

That being said, Tender Prey is a fucking amazing album. Cos when you make music THAT raw it doesn't matter how affected you are.

But on the other albums...it bothers me.
 

PhillyDave

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#52
I don't like Nick Cave...the affectation in everything about him (his looks, voice, lyrics) is overwhelming for me and diminishes my enjoyment of the music. It just feels like I'm listening to some sort of method actor.
I don't think it's an affectation at all. I think he really is the way he seems on screen, in music, in interviews, live. Call it what you want- odd, affected, "trying too hard". Nah. I call it original, honest, the real deal. He may or may not be a likeable person but I respect his work and he seems to be a fascinating dude. He has lead an interesting life.
 

Pogue Mahone

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#53
I don't think it's an affectation at all. I think he really is the way he seems on screen, in music, in interviews, live. Call it what you want- odd, affected, "trying too hard". Nah. I call it original, honest, the real deal.
I totally agree. Tom Waits, on the other hand, has frustrated the hell out of me after Get Behind the Mule (great effort). It seems all an act and not a very good one.
 

bospress.net

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#54
Yeah, I suspect that Nick Cave is a difficult person to deal with. I have never had a chance to meet him, but if I did, it would probably be best to pass. I don't think that anything that he does is an act. Furthermore, I have always felt that he writes for himself. He does not write songs in hopes of them being a hit, or even hoping that they are liked by his audience. They are what he wants them to be. I LOVE most of his albums. A few I do not get. Murder Ballads I always hated because it is a THEME. To me, does not work well. That being said, many people love it. I have also never cared for Grinderman.
 

roni

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#60
The new album is AMAZING. A tough listen [...]
At this moment, I'm hearing it the first time and am inside song no 4 now.
So far -

The feeling of it reminds me a lot of his very depressing times in the late 80s ("Your Funeral My Trial", "Tender Prey"), which always touched me the most of his work; while musically it's filled with his later style ("Boatmans Call", "No More Shall We Part").

This is a match.
 
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