Ananda Osel/Joseph Osel: Article about a emerging genre of poetry. What does everyone think? (1 Viewer)

Funny that you happened to "come across" that article. I mean, since you are (first time) posting from Seattle, and Ananda Osel is from Seattle. What are the odds?
 
Jesus. Why not just come out and be honest? If you have a personal interest then just admit it. That is the difference between being self promoting and a soulless shill.

Bill
 
Well, everyone thinks that they are smarter than everyone else, right? I don't like it, but I understand it.

I also understand honesty. In general, the vast majority of people don't speak the truth, they speak what they think you want to hear. It actually works to my advantage. Points out the people I'd like to avoid rather simply to me.

Carry on.

Oh, by the way, if you can't state "an emerging" instead of "a emerging" (oh, I suppose that's just poetry; how silly of me) just how enticed might I be? I'm gonna go pick up my dog's poop.
 
He's "currently seeking a publisher" for his first first full-length collection, according to his official web site (where his official press photographs show someone who looks like a 22 year old frat boy).

Proletariat Press, publisher of his chapbooks, publishes only the good Mr. Osel, and another guy who is co-editor of his poetry web site, common-line.com (which was apparently run by Richard Wink for a few months at one point). The tagline for the site is, "a guerrilla (or guerilla, as it is spelled on the "about" page) magazine of poetry, art, interview and review."

Guerilla? Really?

"Gorilla poetry for the masses living inside my head."

That's my suggestion for a new tagline, kid. Embrace it. It's you.
 
bukowski's name is mentioned once, in the last paragraph of the article. did this guy really think he'd be taken seriously if he posted this here?
 
It's gorilla marketing. He doesn't care if he's taken seriously.

This is probably the same douchebag who tried to hang the "dirty realism" crap on the Bukowski wikipedia article.

It almost seems like a performance art piece, this Ananda Osel character. I think someone is doing all this for a laugh. I say now, and believe with all my heart, that there is no Ananda Osel. But the memory of Ananda Osel will live on forever inside each one of us.

Ananda Osel. I better not type that name too much. It might lead people here instead of the official site. Wouldn't want that.
 
wait, who are you talking about? ananda osel? you mean ananda osel?

yeah i'm worried about ananda osel getting googled and his fans ending up here, instead of the ananda osel official website. pretty sure ananda osel would not be happy about that!
 
I checked the Ananda Osel website, and Ananda Osel had a link to sign up for an Ananda Osel fan page on Facebook. Because Ananda Osel really gets me with his dirty realism, I decided to check this Ananda Osel Facebook fan page. Turns out Ananda Osel has two fans so far, which is actually two more fans that I thought Ananda Osel would have. Ananda Osel also lists his interests, which include arguing, hip-hop, poetry, women and spell-check. That Ananda Osel is one great poet. Remember the name Ananda Osel.
 
That name kinda looks like an anagram to me.

A weepy emo song title: And Lose Ana

Wacky Italian grandmother porn movie title: Nana Does LA
 
He also seems to enjoy "anonymously" commenting on things written about him:

(7) youdontstop says:
like the poems. when does the book come out?

Of course you like the poems, "Ananda." You wrote them. I assume many of the other comments there were also made by "Ananda," but I'm sure that one is. You know, since the signup email for Tannbox here is youdontstop@...

This is definitely an elaborate hoax. Kudos to the college student(s) behind it!

That being said, I have to admit that I'm a bit disappointed that "Ananda Osel" hasn't come back here after his first successful blast of bukowski.net gorilla self-promotion. I suppose he will eventually. Can anyone guess how that first response will read? I could make a reasonable and accurate guess, based on the others who have made the same mistake. But I would rather let the wild young Turk speak for himself. Like this:

"Many people are convinced that for poetry to be good it must be obscure. They want to keep poetry exclusive to a certain group; the dance of it makes them feel smart. You know, I don't subscribe to that nonsense; I don't want to look words up in a dictionary or dissect a complex metaphor just to understand what a writer is trying to convey."

Now why hasn't someone else taken that brave stance in the past, oh, 50 or 60 years?

Oh...they have? Thousands of them? Huh. And here I thought "Ananda Osel" was onto something new. Go figure.

Rock on, "Ananda Osel." The world needs more like you. Save us from the sea of obscure and complex metaphorical poetry that we are drowning in!
 
"Besides productivity, there's no real line between genius and insanity. But it doesn't matter anyhow; genius provides no cure for the condition under which I suffer. My mere existence perpetuates the state I seek to eradicate." Osel continued, adding that "my artistic autonomy, no matter how callous or transgressive, will not be restricted by popular opinion, custom, or anything else. I do what I want. Anything in my game is directed by me, not you, not them. If you want control or influence you'll have to fight me for it."

you go girl! oh the burden of genius...

ps - i have a hunch he won't be needing to fight anyone.
 
If you are going to do anagrams, please use his full and proper name: Änanda Selah Ösel
 
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This is definitely an elaborate hoax. Kudos to the college student(s) behind it!

the problem is that it's not elaborate: i don't care about people promoting themselves whenever and wherever they can - how else are you supposed to get your work out there? - it's the laziness combined with the dishonesty that's so fuckin irritating.
 
What I mean is, I don't believe Änanda Selah Ösel is a poet or a real person or anything other than a creation. Some kind of low-rent, JT LeRoy-inspired snickering con. In that way it is elaborate, because someone had to write all that fake bad poetry, then construct a fake poet, designed to make everyone who comes across it think, "Wow, that kid is an asshole."

The fake literary genre, the pictures of the pumped-up-knucklehead frat kid, the "interviews" proclaiming that he's better than poets who are narcissistic or hype themselves (while narcissistically hyping himself) - it's all too tidy and perfect. It has to be carefully designed and crafted bullshit, put out there to establish an unlikable character and provoke an angry response.

So I hail the creators of Änanda Selah Ösel/Ananda Osel as geniuses, and only wish I'd thought of it first.
 
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mjp, you're just too much of a nice guy, always willing to see the best in people and credit them with more intelligence than they actually have.
 
Thank God for And A Oh Sell's dirty poetry. It's kicking Bukowski right to the curb. :rolleyes:
 
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The reason I'm asking is because while I read the article and then read some of the poetry, and liked it, I'm not too sure that it's a "new genre." I think this weather you like it or not the style here and Bukowski's is too similar to call anything about it "new."

Should have been more specific.
 
I think this weather you like it or not...

me? I don't like it. too much rain. it's ruining my garden. the poppies look dismal.

but I'm glad to hear your vagina gets plenty of sun.

bad joke, but wait for it. it grows on you. that's what you get for calling yourself Tannbox.

hopefully, you're a dude, because if you're a lady, I'm just being rude. and that's not kosher. right? am I right?
 
I googled this article and noticed this:

[A.S. Osel is the former president of the Black American Student Association. Osel lives and writes in Seattle. He can be reached at [email protected].]

Yes, mjp is right. He is an elaborate ruse. If you look him up, he is white/black also he is a master in the ultimate fighting circuit.

This is someone's idea of a joke.

We are moving up the Google search. Soon Ananda Osel's ruse will be #1 on the Google search!

Bill

p.s. Ananda Osel
 
The funniest thing in all this is the time and energy some here lost in seeking information about the said Ananda Osel on Google and writing their mocking, virulent, never-ending blablablas. Though they could just ignore him/it.
 
The funniest thing in all this is the time and energy some here lost in seeking information about the said Ananda Osel on Google and writing their mocking, virulent, never-ending blablablas. Though they could just ignore him/it.

Well, we tried just ignoring you, but that approach obviously didn't work very well because you're still here.

Seriously, isn't there a Wuthering Heights forum where you could go and be more appreciated? I'm sure they spend their time much more wisely than we do, and you could entertain them with your boring stories about France. Plus, you'll finally escape all the mocking, virulent, never-ending blablablas!

PS: And take all of your bouncing smiley faces with you.

PPS: Ananda Osel
 
...the style here and Bukowski's is too similar to call anything about it "new."
Yes, Osel's poetry is exactly like Bukowski's, so you're right. In fact, I would say that the sooner we crown Änanda Selah Ösel, Ananda Osel, A.S. Osel, et al, the NEW BUKOWSKI, the sooner we can live in a perfect world full of Osel's marvelous poetry, and make him the rich man he deserves to be.

[A.S. Osel is the former president of the Black American Student Association. Osel lives and writes in Seattle. He can be reached at [email protected].]

If you look him up, he is white/black also he is a master in the ultimate fighting circuit.

Former president of the Black American Student Association - now you're talking. That's an awesome accomplishment for a white suburban frat boy. It's like a Marshall Mathers movie up in heah!

The funniest thing in all this is the time and energy some here lost in seeking information about the said Ananda Osel on Google and writing their mocking, virulent, never-ending blablablas. Though they could just ignore him/it.

I'm confused - you say it's funny, yet I don't see any animated smileys. How can something be funny without half a dozen little bouncing faceballs punctuating it? Am I supposed to know that it's funny based on your words alone?

This forum is going to hell, I tell you.
 
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This forum is going to hell, I tell you.

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Oh, and this
 
Thanks d gray.

I just heard on CNN that the great poet and political activist Ananda Selah Osel was shot and killed during a protest in Tehran. I think you guys should be ashamed of yourselves.
 
well, I heard Ananda Selah Osel faked his death in Tehran. he has gone into hiding and is planning to get plastic surgery and gain 138 pounds and infiltrate the elitist hierarchy of academic poetry. he'll lay low until he gets tenure (could take a dozen years, but Ananda Selah Osel is committed!) and then lay those Ivy League snobs out with his street wise free verse never before seen in poetry!

boy, I can't wait to see their faces. free verse no less! whew, rock their world, Ananda Selah Osel.

o, Ananda Selah Osel, you magnificent bastard....
 
"You know your in trouble when you meet Ananda because he can kick your ass in person and on paper."

--James Madison, Cynic Magazine

Oh oh.
Best not get in his way, yo. Whether it's on paper or at the Abercrombie and Fitch.

wait. It IS a new genre of poetry: Frat boy poetry.
 
well, if Keyser Säze... errr, I mean Ananda Selah Osel shows up here we'll see who's ass gets kicked!

(probably mine, but it might be worth seeing, right?)
 
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